G+_Robert T Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 Is it toon soon to start referring to Lollipop as "Android Vista?" A bunch of important, welcome changes hindered by a bunch of poor UX choices and application incompatibilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Thomas Schöller Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 I really really enjoy the new design principles. But I like to hear what others say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Feiris Wheel (Pat) Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 I like the ux changes, I don't see this is any way comparable to vista Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Jeff Larkin Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 It's comparable to Vista in that it seems like many of the UI and UX changes seem to have been made with more consideration to how it looks than how it works. Additionally I'm finding fairly basic apps, even some from Google, that don't work right anymore. There's some great changes under the hood, like Vista, but it's hard to see that forest of good changes through the trees of questionable changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Roy Delgado Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 WAY to soon. Frankly, I don't think the UX choices are poor, but that's a matter of taste. Application incompatibilities have been a part of every major revision of Android. To think this one is a major problem, which I don't, is to have zero memory of the jump from Gingerbread to Ice Cream Sandwich. That was painful, and still Android marched on. The big difference is this; Vista's biggest problem became it's image, it's awful reviews and that people didn't want it to the point that they fought to choose XP instead. Users are clamoring for 5.0 updates, reviews of the OS, not the products, have been raves all around. If in 9 months, the top 5 OEM sell more new Kit Kat phones then Lollipop phones, then we can call it Vista. I'd bet against that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Ed Woodward Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 I agree that some of the ux changes don't make sense. Why is creating a new whatever or editing better at the bottom of the page instead of at the top with everything else? It is not better it is just different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Christopher Copping Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Roy Delgado? I would agree with you 100%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Neil Sedlak Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Ed Woodward? The most common functions were clearly placed at the bottom of the screen so as to be within reach of the thumb. That's a completely clear design choice and not an arbitrary change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Ed Woodward Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Neil Sedlak? maybe the arbitrariness is how it works on different devices and in different apps. On a phone your thumb idea could make sense. On a tablet, not so much. However the implementation is the same for both devices. Some apps, like Evernote, have a new note at the bottom but a new notebook at the top. Depending on the view the new button is on the left or the right. Inbox has the new button at the bottom on the web version where no thumb is involved. However, the implementation on the web is the best option I've seen. When you select it you have the option to create several new things. I'll keep an open mind about it but my first impression is that it is not an improvement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Neil Sedlak Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Ed Woodward? Google has extensive documentation of the design standards at http://www.google.com/design so if you think a developer isn't following them you could let the developer know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Marlon Thompson Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 I saw this post over the weekend and didn't want to comment until I had some time with the best reviewed OS on many sites. I disagree with the Vista comparison totally. Jeff Larkin it might help if you were clearer with the issues you have a problem with but using it I have found that whenever I needed to do some thing the option was right there. For example I was lowering my phone volume and I see the options for priority notifications, i click it and I quickly get the option to set it up. I have found that the new UI leads you to solutions and any incompatibility will be smoothed out with time Android after all is an OS that is always developing and always improving Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Z Kam Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 I'll give it time to grow on me, but so far I'm really not liking it much either. I don't like the white notifications that all look alike, or the fact that there is so much white everywhere (which uses more battery than a predominantly black screen). Also is there really no shortcut to the WiFi hotspots available? In 4.4 holding the WiFi button in quick settings would toggle it on/off and a tap would bring up the list. Same with Bluetooth. Not so in 5.0... Am I missing something? And no quick button to turn on auto-brightness. I'm also not thrilled about the card interface for app switching. It was much easier before to distinguish between different apps. And now the "Last App Switcher" doesn't work due to API changes. Seems like a lot of changes made for a "fresh new look" which is subjective, but some steps backward in terms of functionality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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