G+_Paul Darr Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 At first I thought this was cool but then it hit me that this is an example of how Net Neutrality dies. Sure it's cool when you are streaming from one of the big apps but if your streaming AAA or other TWIT content that still counts against your plan. https://plus.google.com/111016991750865047479/posts/bjrDNL61pUe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Paul Darr Posted June 19, 2014 Author Share Posted June 19, 2014 Ah Michael Bond they say "can ask" but will they really allow all to join. What will be needed to work towards that. In addition they have iHeartRadio. Will they allow other talk radio providers such as TWIT to also join? There is no information about that considering TWIT doesn't stream music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Paul Darr Posted June 19, 2014 Author Share Posted June 19, 2014 If they truly do allow all legal content providers on board that would be great. It's just the limited roll out, the voting for other services and lack of mentioning podcasters makes me think the claim is very dubious. In addition wouldn't Shifty Jelly need to get cachefly.com white listed since that's the source of the content. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Paul Darr Posted June 19, 2014 Author Share Posted June 19, 2014 That would be pretty data intensive for him to route all the traffic through his servers. I doubt he is set up as a proxy but I we would have to ask Shifty. I actually use BeyondPod for my podcasts so this would be even more convoluted for me.? Edit: I hope more info comes out later and my fears are proven wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Joseph Cappellino Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 I was thinking about what you said on the way to work today. I don't think it's against Net Neutrality. This is just a competitive advantage over other carriers to entice new customers and to keep current ones. Basically, they partner with other services and provide this data without affecting their total usage. Granted it might hurt non-partnered services, as their customers might choose a different service. But, that's just competition, and it's the same open Internet. I, the consumer, have the choice which service to choose. They will all operate the same as before, but one service doesn't count against my data cap. What they are not doing is hurting (directly) the non-partnered services by charging them to provide their service, similar to the whole Comcast-Netflix debacle. In this situation, they were hurting end-users by throttling certain services unless they paid a premium, which ultimately will be paid by the consumer (Netflix surely isn't going to lose money in this situation just to keep Comcast customers). Anyway, this might actually allow me to drop from unlimited data to the 5GB plan, and my wife down to the 3GB plan, as I'm sure Google Play Music All Access will be included. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Paul Darr Posted June 19, 2014 Author Share Posted June 19, 2014 Joseph Cappellino I think you are missing the fact that violating net neutrality does not always result in a negative outcome for the consumer. You have pointed out many good things about this program but that does not remove the fact that they are treating some data differently (which is the definition of net neutrality). What I hear you saying is that while it does violate net neutrality, you are okay with that because it is better for the consumer than the previous plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Paul Darr Posted June 19, 2014 Author Share Posted June 19, 2014 The fact that it is treating music streaming data different from video data or normal web surfing in and of itself makes it a violation of net neutrality. Sorry I've been discussing this in several different posts so I'm not sure if that point was presented here yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Joseph Cappellino Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 Paul Darr - MMS are given preferential treatment (they actually use the data portion, yet you're not charged). This is the same on all carriers in their current plans. I do, however, see your point. Personally, I don't see this as a bad thing, but I'm sure that's just the first step to bigger problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts