G+_Ben Tyger Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 I know a lot of people use #crashplan at home and integrated into their NAS boxes. I got a e-mail from crashplan that they are shuttering their personal / consumer line of business ! I'm really pissed at this. They were one of the few cloud backups that did things right and had great multi-platform support for the home user. So if you have crashplan or are looking at crashplan for non-SMB / non-Enterprise uses in the near future, don't. More info: https://blog.code42.com/data-protection-needs-diverge/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Travis Hershberger Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 So, the home subscription is going away, I wonder about the free product? I kinda rely on it for family! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Ben Tyger Posted August 22, 2017 Author Share Posted August 22, 2017 Crashplan's response is to upgrade to SMB. You'll get the SMB versions for 75% of regular price for 12 months. Or they recommend Carbonite for people who don't want to go to SMB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Ben Tyger Posted August 22, 2017 Author Share Posted August 22, 2017 Travis Hershberger I suspect they're dropping the whole consumer product development. That's where most of the cost goes to with the consumer product. I can't see them just continuing a free product without making money on it in some way. All the cost but no income. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Travis Hershberger Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 In other words, I'm going to have to roll my own instead of a nice convenient package :( The free thing was/is their best product marketing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Ben Tyger Posted August 22, 2017 Author Share Posted August 22, 2017 Travis Hershberger I needed multiple backup sets so the free didn't work for me... I loved crashplan because of the family plan. For 14 USD/month I could use it on up to 10 computers with unlimited data. I have 7. It was so nice not to have to muck around getting all of the data out of all of those machines of different OSs and aggregating them into one machine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Travis Hershberger Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 Yet another project for my Home Lab, figure out the best way to replace it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Ben Reese Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 Oh, wow! Thanks for the info! I've got the family plan too shared with my parents, brother, and myself. Sad thing is, even though we've had it for about 4 years, my parents' system still isn't backed up completely. CrashPlan really was the best option from what I could tell (6 TB backups gets expensive on most other services). Plus, there were some low-importance items I had deleted from my computer knowing they were on CrashPlan if I ever needed them. I guess it's time to restore them and find out where I'm going next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Ben Tyger Posted August 22, 2017 Author Share Posted August 22, 2017 Was as going to #cloudberry, but then I saw the linux machine client cost... 30 - 150 USD per linux machine (one time) + storage costs. :-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Ben Tyger Posted August 22, 2017 Author Share Posted August 22, 2017 Travis Hershberger At this point, I'm looking at bacula with S3/Glacier integrations.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Scott Dible Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 I'm using Duplicati to back up my critical files. Right now, I'm just using free storage, but it has S3 itineration, and I'll probably be looking in to that in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_John Saunders Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 I agree with Scott Dible?, I'm using S3 with Duplicati for monthly, with Glacier as quartrtly backup. Can't beat the price. I have a ESXi server with FreeNAS that I use for weekly backups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Ben Reese Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 Anyone have experience with Backblaze? I'm looking at them as my CrashPlan replacement. Carbonite is just too limiting at the low tier. *The encryption sounds good if they're doing as they explained in 2008. Including "TNO" options. *Offer 2FA. *They have unlimited storage. *$50/yr isn't too expensive. (Although I was getting 10 computers on CrashPlan for $150) The only problems I see are *Backups are only stored for 30 days after deleting locally. CrashPlan keeps them for the lifetime of the account. *No support for network drives - though I think I have a workaround for that. (NAS backup plans are $5/Mo/TB). AWS Glacier is probably a much better option if you have less than 1 TB to backup. I just can't justify spending that much at this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Ben Tyger Posted August 23, 2017 Author Share Posted August 23, 2017 My biggest issue is does #backblaze have a client that runs on ARM? For things like NASs and RPis..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Ben Reese Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 Ben Tyger not sure yet. I'll have to look into it. CrashPlan used a Java client, so it probably did run on the Pi; but the Java client also uses a ton of RAM. Backblaze is supported on Synology, but that requires you to use the right business server backup plan, which is quite a bit more expensive. I'm backing up some volumes from my NAS now to CrashPlan via my Windows computer. I last renewed CrashPlan in March, so I've got a few months before I need to start moving my data and my families stuff to somewhere new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Travis Hershberger Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 Ben Tyger They should, I haven't started looking into this yet myself, but I"m probably going to use Backblaze B2 as backing storage for whatever solution I end up using. Cheaper than Amazon S3, but faster access when needed than Glacier. Glacier is great for ice cold storage you won't need to get back quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Travis Hershberger Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 Ben Tyger backblaze.com - How To Back Up Your NAS with B2 and CloudBerry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Ben Tyger Posted August 23, 2017 Author Share Posted August 23, 2017 Does anybody know if #backblaze gives multi-computer discounts for the personal version? I really don't want to make an account just figure it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Cameron Bendschneider Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 I think there will be a lot of people in the same boat here. I'm wondering what I'll be doing come mid December, when my current sub expires... Especially since i't's mainly my Synology NAS that I'm needing to backup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Scott Baker Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 Ben Reese? Backblaze is only TNO if you never restore any data. Restores are done server side, so they have your key at that point. Since the whole point of backing up is to be able to restore in case of a problem, they do not offer TNO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Ben Reese Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 Scott Baker interesting. So during restore your private key is sent to their servers to decrypt the data? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Scott Dible Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 Ben Reese?, Scott Baker?: part of the reason I like Duplicati. I'm wondering now if it also supports Backblaze. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Scott Dible Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 I checked last night. It seems that Duplicati does support Backblaze B2. I signed up for an account and will give it a try this weekend. The first 10GB is free. The price looks pretty good compared to other options. I'm not sure how it compares to Amazon Glacier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Travis Hershberger Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 Scott Dible Backblaze B2 isn't meant as a competitor to Glacier, it's more like S3 statistics wise. Glad to hear Duplicati supports it, might just use Duplicati with B2 here then instead of putting NextCloud in the middle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Scott Baker Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 Ben Reese Here's their marketing page - backblaze.com - Online Backup Security & Encryption | Backblaze Just scroll down to the section on restoring data and restoring data with a passphrase (the TNO option). You can find other pages with info about it as well, but the high-level talks about their server-based restore. If you find anything different, I'd love to hear about it. Probably still not an option for me because of their 30-day limit on deleted files and file versions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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