G+_Phil Chung Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Do the new Powerline adapters based on AV1200 or AV2000 have a significant advantage over AV500? The house I rent is about 30 metres long and the router is at one end of the house (can't move this as it is where the fibre enters the house). In the middle of the house my speeds are around 65Mbps and at the far end of the house speed is about 30Mbps. So my question is would the newer Powerline standard be able to give me 100Mbps throughout the house (I do get the full 100/40 speed at the router)? Is there anyone here that has experience upgrading from AV500 to AV1200/2000 who can offer their comments? Would a set of three Google Wifi be a good alternative? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Jason Perry Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 How well do you know the electrical in your house? Best case is to keep the adaptors on the same circuit, you may run into issues if they are on different circuits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Phil Chung Posted March 14, 2017 Author Share Posted March 14, 2017 Jason Perry Not very well. It's not that obvious from the switch box either. I have tried various sockets with similar results. I never get full speed with the current adapters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Golden Retriever Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 my suggestion is get another router by the same manufacturer put it in the middle of your house and set it up to repeat the signal from the first router Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Golden Retriever Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 Myself I use a pair of media converters and pass my ethernet via the cable TV wire from one end of the house to the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Jason Perry Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 Good old MOCA. The cable company in my area uses it to pass PVR recordings between set top boxes. I would trust that over powerline any day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Benjamin Webb Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 I see people mess around with various expensive gadgets all the time to extend internet. In my travels I have found two things that work consistently. Buy some wire, crimpers, and ends, borrow a drill With a paddle bit or pick one up from a pawn shop and run an ethernet line where you need it. Then put a acess point on it. This is the tried and true and can be much less work than fighting with power circuits or repeaters. Second method for people renting or surrounded by walls that can't drill through is pick up an Archer C7 on eBay then put DD-WRT on it and receive signal from first router with 5 ghz radio and repeat with 2.4 ghz radio. Believe there are tutorials on the DD-WRT site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Travis Hershberger Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 I'm with Tod Sage? and Jason Perry?, MOCA adapters will last while powerline by its nature is exposed to all the surges and spikes on the electrical system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Phil Chung Posted March 15, 2017 Author Share Posted March 15, 2017 Tod Sage I need ethernet at both locations hence asking about Powerline or Google Wifi.Current router doesn't have great wifi (only N300), so another option is to get a better router and get a couple of bridges where I need the ethernet, but then unsure whether wifi will reach from one end of the house to the other. So I think the best options are still mesh wifi units or better Powerline adapters if they have the reach. I don't have cable TV (I'm in Australia and cable TV isn't common) so can't use MOCA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Phil Chung Posted March 15, 2017 Author Share Posted March 15, 2017 Travis Hershberger Not an option for me - would be great to try if it was. I think I'm leaning towards mesh wifi right now to distribute around the house. I agree that Powerline isn't great - was adequate when I had slower Internet, but now I want full speed all everywhere! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Benjamin Webb Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 DD-WRT can also function as a wireless to wired bridge. Main router -5ghz-> DD WRT Repeat -2.4ghz -> DD WRT client --> ethernet Looking at 2 Archer C7 on eBay think I saw them running for $60 each but maybe have to buy something else in Australia. Personally would just run a dam cable and buy a $10 switch but I am cheap and don't fear drilling holes or running cable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Jason Perry Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 I hear good things about eero, but everyone is selling them now. I would take that solution over powerline as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Jason Perry Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 Benjamin Webb??, I agree running a cable is the best option, but I know the shit I hear from my wife when I pick up a drill. PS that's a good price for the c7 routers, even after I convert to CAD. I have one all ready I want to put dd WRT on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Phil Chung Posted March 15, 2017 Author Share Posted March 15, 2017 Benjamin Webb Can get Archer C7 here, but if I'm going to get a new router (or several), I'm more inclined to get a mesh wifi system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Phil Chung Posted March 15, 2017 Author Share Posted March 15, 2017 Jason Perry Can't get Eero or Google WiFi in Australia yet, though I can import easily enough - Eero says it needs a US phone number on their web site. The Ubiquiti Amplifi units look interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Benjamin Webb Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 Phil Chung Well was just trying to keep you cost down. I have never liked mesh because of cost but can't beat ease of use and self healing. I don't like mesh also because they usually don't pick the best path for their network. That said benchmarking and statically configuring each node is not much fun either and it would break when a node drops out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Jason Perry Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 What about orbi by netgear netgear.com - Orbi: A WiFi System for Better WiFi Everywhere by NETGEAR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Phil Chung Posted March 15, 2017 Author Share Posted March 15, 2017 Benjamin Webb Yeah, would like to keep costs down if I can, but the layout of the house and the fact I'm renting limits what I can do. There are pros and cons for all the options. Just not sure which one would work the best for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Benjamin Webb Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 Phil Chung If you flash a router the warranty is useless which is why I never buy new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Phil Chung Posted March 15, 2017 Author Share Posted March 15, 2017 Jason Perry I've considered Orbi, but they're incredibly expensive here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Jason Perry Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 Benjamin Webb?, does dd-wrt support the archer c7? I can't find it listed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Jason Perry Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 I see it listed on OpenWRT. Even though it says c5 it also lists the c7 wiki.openwrt.org - TP-Link Archer C5 AC1200 / TP-Link Archer C7 AC1750 / TP-Link TL-WDR7500 [OpenWrt Wiki] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Benjamin Webb Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 Apologies, DD WRT is fairly upstream of OpenWRT but I assumed it was supported by now. Could also try Gargoyle. Guess have to stick with older Asus as recomendation for DD WRT even though they cost much more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_martin rednal Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 Mikrotik support WiFi repeat, they are cheap and should be available in au. Or one unifi long range might do the whole house, is not then a couple of unifi with WiFi uplink Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Jason Perry Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 Benjamin Webb?, I was hoping you had a link I couldn't find. What Asus router are you thinking of getting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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