G+_Derek Anderson Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 Hey all, what's you guys' opinion on mandatory drone registration by the FAA?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Eddie Foy Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 Money grab. But could be more sinister: Like licensing HAM radio operators. So they can round up experienced operators for war (baby-killing) 'duties' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Larry Havenstein Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 Military is having a hard time filling positions for drone pilots so that could be a reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Harry Maciolek Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 Don't like it but the drone flying community hasn't been doing itself proud lately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Travis Hershberger Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 Harry Maciolek If you dig into the reports, the number of real incidents with drones is tiny. As in less than 1% of the claimed number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Harry Maciolek Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 Travis Hershberger? Admittedly most incidents are minor and not dangerous but they do generate reports. And we know the government is reactionary and not too bright when it comes to tech. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Fr. Robert Ballecer, SJ Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 Here's what I think: It's a useless process, but it will be MOSTLY painless and free... and in three years, we probably won't care anymore. -- If it makes the drone haters feel more comfortable about something they don't understand, I'm willing to put up with a little discomfort. Also... our first build of 2016 is a FPV racing drone that flies through a loophole in the regulations. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Fr. Robert Ballecer, SJ Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 Wayne Hobbins you'll just watch to watch the 1/7 episode. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Larry Havenstein Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 if I multirotor weighed 55 pounds you probably could ride it. Actually the FAA has said if it is over 55 pounds its considered a commercial UAV and has to have a licensed pilot. AMA has serious issues with that as some of the 1/4 scale aircraft can go over 55 pounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Derek Anderson Posted December 16, 2015 Author Share Posted December 16, 2015 Also, the regulations say less than 0.55 lbs don't have to be registered. That's about 1.1kg. Didn't the KH250 weigh less than that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Larry Havenstein Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 No thats 0.249476 Kg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Derek Anderson Posted December 16, 2015 Author Share Posted December 16, 2015 That's correct. Did the wrong math in my head. Lol. 1kg = 2.2 lbs, not the other way around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Ben Reese Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 Well, now that I have to get a license, I should now be allowed to fly at the airport and out of eyesight, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Larry Havenstein Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 Well the FAA has been wanting to interfere for years but multirotor popularity has given them a way to justify it. AMA has kept them at bay by working with the congress in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Ben Reese Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 Instead it just makes a lot of hobbiests criminals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Larry Havenstein Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 Flying at an airport with anything other than a manned aircraft is never a good idea unless you were invited to be in an airshow. Years ago our RC club were part of the local airshow at the airport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Steve Fuqua Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 A tax b/c the government wants a piece of the new drone sales. Also pre-built, ready to fly drones are for appliance operators. Any one with adequate technical knowledge will build their own drone from a list of parts and not be bothered with registration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Jeff Brand Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 There are real safety concerns that only increase in likelihood as the costs/effort to enter the field go down. I don't want the regulation/interference either, but bad actors have raised enough eyebrows of the average citizen and politician alike. Drone registration is a poor substitution for intelligent regulation based on the realities of model aircraft in public airspace, but it's a sign of things to come. If people can't be aware of their surroundings as evaluated through some future "sUAS pilot license," the next safest "option" will be mandated geofencing as currently being developed by DJI/FAA. At some point the "get off my lawn" attitude that runs rampant around this discussion will need to turn into some form of healthy advocacy towards minimal, rational rules, training, and yes - probably - certification. I'm not happy about being the most pro-regulation guy in this discussion but I think it's a disservice to dismiss the evolving rules as unnecessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Jeff Brand Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 Death isn't the only benchmark for unsafe operation. I'm saying that it's time to deal with those "more important things" instead of dismissing all of the FAA's activity on the topic as unnecessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Jeff Brand Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 And again, I'll say that registration isn't the answer. Dwelling on that point only makes mine. You can follow the well-known model aircraft laws and still be unsafe. It's reasonable to require some level of awareness about public airspace if you're going to enter it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Larry Havenstein Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 The real challenge is getting the average public to know the rules on the books and basic safety. If you have registration it will help that along although many still will be clueless. But as it has been multirotors have exploded onto the scene and the public has the idea what most yahoos put up on YouTube is ok. How to you tell them most of that isn't ok? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Jeff Brand Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 Wayne Hobbins I addressed the OP's question and then the comments that followed. That's how discussions work. I've said my piece. If you're going to poke back, let it be a rational counterpoint and not some troll-bait about how off-topic I am. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Larry Havenstein Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 not to change the topic a little but I got an interesting letter in my email today from the AMA on registration. http://view.exacttarget.com/?j=fe4f117976610c7b7c17&m=fec815777563057a&ls=fdbe15727c60057a721c737660&l=fe8b13737d6c067d7d&s=fe2b12707d61047f7c1674&jb=ffcf14&ju=fe2711727160017a721171&r=0 Seems there is litigation between the AMA and the FAA on what is an aircraft and if it fits the Model Aircraft rules can the FAA control it. This could be an interesting twist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Jeff Brand Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 ... aaaannnnd no thanks.. http://www.engadget.com/2015/12/18/faa-confirms-that-drone-registry-info-will-be-public-record/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Ben Yanke Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 Less government the better, in general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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