G+_Transmit This Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 Quick Question, Network related. 1) Should I be terminating Cat6 with staggered connectors? image 2) Is it best to source "23AWG" Cat6 cable, to be more hopeful it's passed the specifications. (seems 80% fail anyway http://www.bluejeanscable.com/articles/is-your-cat6-a-dog.htm.) 3) Is Cat5e's (125MB) enough future proof for residential broadband for the next 5y ? on 10MB down @ present 4) Why the weird trace paths for 2 of the pins on the back of a wall termination jack (yes took one to bits and had a shufty) 5) Should I run away from the cheap CCA (copper covered aluminium) Liking the show Kind Regards Transmit This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_David Simmons Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 I can't even find Cat 5 in stock in my area anymore. Cat 6 seems to be installers default right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Steven Atkinson Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 I've always been told by my calling installers to pay the extra for copper cable. So yes to number 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Eddie Foy Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 CCA I wouldn't touch with a 3 meter pole! :P Staggered vs straight? My Q is WHY making own patch cables??? All the Monoprice cables I have bought have passed on my Fluke Cable qualifier (not a basic 'tester' but still not a $10K certifier) at Gb. (I check every cable I get/make) Now the in wall cables, yes make them. Take BJ's article with a grain of salt. They have 'dog in the hunt' and sell cables, and of course theirs are 'superior' to others (that use the same source MFG) somehow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Transmit This Posted May 13, 2015 Author Share Posted May 13, 2015 I'm dropping a few, maybe one inside an old tv aerial conduit, and a couple outside from the loft, drilled through wall and terminated with wall mounts. And yes a couple of short patch/router cables Thing is, I'm wanting to future proof as much as I can, don't want to have to redo because the cables were not up to standard. I just pulled the boot back on that CCA (returning to amazon) and it was pretty poorly done, not to mention faulty. I'd prefer to do my own at least I know they will be the right length and redoable should I need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Eddie Foy Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 If you want to future proof; CAT6 or CAT7 in the walls and the keystones. patch cables n the room are easy to replace; internal wiring not so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Ben Reese Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 Cat5e might be 125 Mbps at the 300 ft "max", but you can get close to Gigabit at 100 ft. If you're doing it new though, you should probably just use Cat6+. What I've seen affect cable certification more than anything else is how far the twists go before the wire is terminated. It's always tempting to untwist the wires an inch back, but they should stay twisted until something like ¼" before the punch/crimp. Some keystone jacks make this easier than others, but RJ45s are entirely up to the person crimping the wire. I really wouldn't worry about certifying the cables though. As Eddie said, a patch panel and keystone jacks make the job so much better! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Transmit This Posted May 14, 2015 Author Share Posted May 14, 2015 That's interesting Ben, My runs are <20 meters. (Sorry to correct what was only a typo, but Ethernet 1000BASE-T cat5e is 125MB/s rated not Mb. so were already at 1GBit theoretical. Cat6 would be 10Gb, 1250MB/s Unless I misunderstood the numbers @ the wiki that is..... Not really heard of any hard numbers on the "actual" throughput you can get on a Cat5e. Would be nice to test - but not able to myself I just don't want to find myself in 7 years, streaming Virtual reality over the cable, and realising that I would really benefit from several hundred MB/s and wish I had gone with Cat6 Yes I suppose the crosstalk at the end would be one area where you can make a difference yourself, does that mean that (Q1) staggered plugs would be beneficial, even on Cat5e... I try and leave the twists as close as possible, usually well into the plug, not. Not particularly professional but here one I did yesterday https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_J28f4wi_tcVG9sNDJQMWJoYTA/view?usp=sharing Not really worried about "actual" certification, more where to get good quality cables from, that are not some cheap knock off with a very limited throughput... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Ben Reese Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 Nice looking cable! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Transmit This Posted May 14, 2015 Author Share Posted May 14, 2015 Hrm, yes I know, I really cheaped out on the actual cable there, while it does say cat5 it's really thin easily damaged, it was cheap (I really need to up my expenditure on this stuff) :) (Thanks if you actually meant my connection was passable, hard to tell with txt) Talking of cheap, heres a image of that CCA from Amazon, I pulled the boot back and found this. https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B_J28f4wi_tcMy1xUlJ6dVdUODA&authuser=0 So not only really thin copper coating, but pretty poor connection, by the looks of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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