G+_Vincent Panico Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 Hey guys I am planning to start a small reselling wifi service in my town so people can stay connected all the time and not lose signal. say I wanted 100 people to get on. would 800gb of bandwidth be good or would I need more? and what type up setup would I need? any info would be great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Eddie Foy Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 I'm confused. The site you posted is a web hosting site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Vincent Panico Posted May 11, 2015 Author Share Posted May 11, 2015 reseller site too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Vincent Panico Posted May 11, 2015 Author Share Posted May 11, 2015 because I got that from a search in good for internet reseller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Vincent Panico Posted May 11, 2015 Author Share Posted May 11, 2015 or you might be right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Ben Reese Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 That kinda depends on the speed of this network. 800 GB goes a long way at 1 Mbps, but not as far at 50 Mbps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Jason Marsh Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 So, you're starting up a WISP? Will you have customers who use your service as their primary connection, or is this more or less wifidog/hotspot access in the shopping district? 800GB sounds like a lot at first, but if you have customers who exclusively use your service, far less than a hundred could burn through far more than that in a month. Even wifi use from 100 handhelds could crush 800GB faster than you might expect. At home, I burn through data because I essentially have no cap. I get letters from my ISP, but they never threaten to cut me off. It's always a sales pitch for a faster plan. But when I'm mobile, I curb my usage severely, and even then I've bumped 2GB in a month with just 1 phone and zero video viewing. Given 50 users who just don't care and are watching youtube/netflix all day long, that 800GB wouldn't last long. So then you have to figure out exactly what you'll provide in speed, and game it out as each customer maxing out his/her speed for what, 8 hours a day, every day, and see where that gets you. At that point I think it becomes a hard sell if you're asking $20 a month for a guaranteed 1Mbs connection just to make sure your revenue is equal to or greater than your costs. Your take, and the thoughts of your potential customer base, could be vastly different from mine. Perhaps Fr. Robert Ballecer, SJ can ping one of the WISP operators he knows and get them to share some insight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Vincent Panico Posted May 12, 2015 Author Share Posted May 12, 2015 I want to start a wifi hotspot to my neighborhood starting small about 20-100 people. I want to let them have connection all the time without losing signal. for 1 year it $110 or $20 a month. what are good internet provides for this type of setup? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Ben Reese Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 Starting an ISP sounds like a fun challenge and thanks to Title 2 it should be a piece of cake, right? Most likely to I'll have to find someone in the area to buy bandwidth from. This will be a large ISP with fiber in the ground - maybe AT&T, Century Link, Time Warner, Comcast, etc... Typically they have it in the TOS that you can't just resell access to the cable Internet you'd buy for your house. After that you'd need a way to get that access to everyone who needs service. Wireless might be the easiest and setup a tower to connect all the houses. Otherwise you'd probably have to bury cable or lease someone else's. Speaking of leasing, don't some DSL providers let you resell their service? If you're going for an open to everyone option, you'd also need to provide modems and routers to all your customers. The router would need to be configured for a open guest network and a secure private network for the homeowner. I think I remember hearing about Comcast doing something like that, but they had the second guest network completely segregated from the private network with its own public IP and everything. Those are just the thoughts that come to my mind with a project like this. I personally like the wireless idea, but that could require the most maintenance too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Vincent Panico Posted May 12, 2015 Author Share Posted May 12, 2015 All the equipment and setting up will I can handle. I need a list of resellers. I am not trying to do ISP service its a wifi. I know how to do the wifi setup! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Eddie Foy Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 keep in mind power output of the wifi hotspots. There are licensing issues if over about a watt, then also limits for PEP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Jason Marsh Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 ??? If providing internet connection over wifi to an area is not acting as a Wireless ISP (WISP), then maybe I'm misunderstanding exactly what it tis you're planning to do. Help us help you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Ben Reese Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 If the wifi gives access to the Internet, it's an Internet service. If it doesn't, it's useless to most of your customers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Vincent Panico Posted May 12, 2015 Author Share Posted May 12, 2015 I need a internet provider so i can use it tobhookup wifi so i can sell it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Ben Reese Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 I guess it's a tough call since I don't know anything about your neighborhood or what ISPs you have in the area. Are you wanting to put up multiple access points in the neighborhood or just one? Do you want to restrict access or leave it open? If you're selling access to the Internet, your an ISP - regardless of how that connection is made. Wifi is just the connection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Eddie Foy Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 The hacker in me relishes the MitM aspects :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Vincent Panico Posted May 13, 2015 Author Share Posted May 13, 2015 Ill be putting up two access points, it will be closed due to payment plan. I live in Morgantown WV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Ben Reese Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 Gotcha. Looks like pretty traditional neighbourhoods with houses spaced 10-15ft apart... Just gonna say, it will be difficult to hit 100 houses with 2 APs. Not saying it can't be done, just difficult. When you figure there's already 1 wireless router per house and most on 2.4GHz, every channel is already jammed multiple times over. You could probably get by with outdoor antennas everywhere and use 5Ghz pretty reliability, but still not ideal. If you're servicing that many houses, you'll probably want fiber, but cable Internet could certainly handle the bandwidth if your ISP could supply it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Eddie Foy Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 keep us informed to how it goes, and if you bailed what the sticking point/hurdle was. Its a real cool project. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Vincent Panico Posted May 13, 2015 Author Share Posted May 13, 2015 Thanks guys I will! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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