G+_Edgar Cervantes Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 Love both Paul and Mary, but lately it seems that Paul has been even more dour than usual. I wonder if it is Just the overwhelming weight of dealing with Microsoft or if it is all because of Windows 8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Jeff Wolfers Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 Am sure he's bummed that his meal ticket has stumbled so badly in recent years. Win 8 was a huge opportunity for MS to retake at least some mind share and it appears to be failing at the moment. You're be glum too watching your meal ticket stumble and fall repeatedly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_William Armstrong Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 No, having watched him, he really does believe the things he says, and writes. He is bummed not because of his meal ticket, but because of the fumble itself. Paul could branch out into several areas, but he really does enjoy the space he is in. I would be bummed too, in the same situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Jeff Wolfers Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 William Armstrong Yes, Paul's a bright lad and he could (and does) comment on any tech topic, but MS is his brief and he's so disappointed that they continue to fumble, bumble and stumble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Jennifer Hayden Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Bomb-dawg needs to go! Get a new CEO with a fresher vision. See Yahoo as an example. Also, split the company up into sectors like: Games/Business/Consumer/Mobile Run those sectors like startups. The surface hardware seems nice but it is too bad the OS is just not very useful. What can it do beside be a canvas for a kid painter? I don't know if my office will ever upgrade to win 8. Maybe 9 or 10 will be better. It didn't have to be so different. I am still not totally used to the app ribbons for Fraks sake. When you can't find that tool you have used for years because they moved it somewhere new AGAIN, you start to give up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Jeff Wolfers Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Jennifer Hayden If it was mine to do I would have tarted up Win 7 into a traditional Win 8 offering. Then launched 'Metro' for phones, tablets and touch devices. People could pick and chose what was best for them, and not have to make this silly Franken-OS work. Ballmer is clearly an idiot that can't manage innovation. Gates should toss him out on his ear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Mark Wardell Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 I guess I'm the oddity, I use Window 8 on my desktop and I love it. Can I say there is nothing about it I wouldn't change, of course not. But guess what, I've never once started my computer to use the OS, the OS is there to start the other programs that I want to run. The Start Screen (Metro interface) for me at least is solid upgrade to the same old start button we've had for years. I start the computer (which boots in less than a minute by the way, and that's from a cold start on an old HDD) and I can have up to 60 icons for the programs I use the most one click away, and yet not cluttering my desktop. Bringing up the start screen is just as easy as the start button even was, press the Windows key on the keyboard and put my mouse in the lower left corner, right where the start button use to be. Someone will no doubt argue I'm not really using Windows 8 because I'm running programs that brings up the desktop. Well, really, does it matter? None of the pre-installed 'metro' apps hold any appeal for me, except perhaps the weather app. But is that any different than any other version of Windows I've installed? When Adobe releases a version of Photoshop that runs in the metro interface then we can talk. I'm surely not going to change anyone's mind here, you've got to use it for yourself with a willingness to try something new. And even then it's okay that people like different things. There are lot of people still using Win XP (Steve Gibson) or Win 98. I'm all in on Windows 8 and looking forward to what's to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Jeff Wolfers Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 Mark Wardell Good to hear you're getting use out of the new UI. I've tried it... just couldn't warm up to it. To each their own! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Mark Wardell Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 John Stark, I've only played with touch in stores, but I can see where that would change the dynamic. My home desk is not necessarily the best place to think about testing that dynamic though, it's an old desk. Jeff Wolfers, Absolutely, which is why I would actually argue that more options, not fewer, that would allow people to customize the UI to meet their style would be a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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