I saw Mike Elgan talking about the changes to TNT today on the live New Year 's show

[G+_Mark Rodriguez (ISTJ Ge]

I saw Mike Elgan talking about the changes to TNT today on the live New Year's show. I was a bit dismayed when I heard him mention 30 minutes as the show duration. I don't know that they can get the in depth analysis we want into 30 minutes - plus it will be too short for my treadmill runs (meaning I may not have a time slot to watch it anymore). Hopefully the 45 - 50 minutes they have been for the last few months can continue.

[G+_Ricky Cash]

Seems like he is saying it will bee straight news without analysis. Jest tell the story and move on. At least that's the way I took it.

[G+_Jerry Ham]

Ricky Cash Yes, that is what I thought I heard too. I guess they don't realize that straight news without analysis is all over the place on the web - there is really no reason to watch TNT on TWiT for that. Heck, straight news (and rumors) is available in Google Play Newstand via sites like The Verge, AllThingsD, Engadget, The Guardian, etc. These can be viewed a little at a time with no need to set aside a 30 (or 50) minute viewing window. Analysis (and the personalities) is what kept me coming back to TNT.

[G+_Ricky Cash]

What the socalled professional podcast movement is doing is disappointing to me. There should be no reason to place a time limit on a podcast. If there is nothing to talk about make it shorter. If there are plenty of thing to discuss make them as long as necessary within reason.

 

Why take on the traditional TV ways of set times and schedules. Maybe that's the only way you can monetize this stuff.

[G+_John Mink]

It's hard to say beforehand.  These things often end up changing, so maybe they'll try it and decide a longer show/more analysis is needed.

 

Also, don't forget there's an evening version of the show too, so that should give them some more time....but probably not help with your treadmill!

 

I'm willing to see what happens, especially because Tom has said he wants/intends to do a daily news show at some point.  So maybe this is also trying not to directly compete?

 

What i'm more curious about was where Mike Elgan talked about the "breaking news stories".  Very curious to see how they handle that in live/podcast, and to see if it goes over well with the live audience.

[G+_Marlon Thompson]

You know I don't get the Sarah lane hate Roderick Omari, what is the cause, I find it is a bit unfair

[G+_John Mink]

Garnie Bolling I'm going to watch for a few days, give it a chance, but for now I expect to follow you.

[G+_Dennis A. Deschamps (Dr]

I know so that TWiT TNT will not be as good as when Jason Howell, Iyaz Akhtar, Sarah Lane and Tom Meritt

[G+_Marlon Thompson]

Roderick Omari Ok sorry it's just that I see too much of the Sarah hate in this community

[G+_Marlon Thompson]

No problem Roderick Omari the only thing though is that Jason has been on the show  about 3-5 months after it started if I remember. His beat is Android and it has blown up in that time and that is why you heard him more. With the new format I expect his role to change.

[G+_John Mink]

Good call Lou Gagliardi didn't realize that was up already :)

[G+_Matthew Bowen]

Lou Gagliardi you should really get that cough looked at my friend. ;-)

[G+_Aldo Merino]

I wasn't thrilled with the news of the short show time -- the ~45 min. mark seemed to work pretty well -- but I was willing to give it a shot. After watching the pilot under Mike Elgan's helm, I'm less sure of what the intent of the show being shorter is, especially considering 10 minutes of it was Scoble talking about a non-existent iWatch for the umpteenth time. 

 

For all intents and purposes, the show's format was barely changed, albeit with all the rough edges that come with trying to launch a show all over (though kudos to Sarah Lane for giving the show some much needed energy). We'll see how all the upcoming changes go but, even as a heavy TWIT listener, I can safely say I won't be sticking around for weeks until it all gets sorted. I'll tune in tomorrow and may be a bit next week, but that's about all I'm going to endure as a viewer/listener before I go looking for greener pastures on the news front.  *cough cough*, indeed.

 

And I'm equally less thrilled with some of the excessive moderation around these parts. I'm more than willing to give the folks at TWIT plenty of leeway, especially given the big changes recently and the nature of the Internet, but I've seen even relatively mild critiques just disappear, including one just this afternoon. It's getting a bit overly heavy handed.

[G+_Aldo Merino]

Sarah gets a bit of flak around these parts (unnecessarily, IMO), but she knows what she's doing. 

 

Admittedly, while I've tried to dampen my expectations given the relatively new changes, I figured I'd wait and see until at least the first episode went live to see how things would go. For all the talk Leo and Elgan have been doing, I was certainly expecting more than a rough "beta" that was largely the same, sans the Randomizer, calendar, and feedback. 

 

I mean, the infrastructure is there now and Leo and Elgan surely have deep Rolodexs to dig through if they want to go a more journalistic and/or international route. Instead, we got an abbreviated program along the usual format and Scoble. The discrepancy between the rhetoric and the product was just jarring and....well, weird.

 

Still, it's Show One. I'll try to hang around for Show Two, and Show Three, but now it seems like there's a long, long way to go before the reality meets the rhetoric.

[G+_Nathan McMahon]

I'm not a fan of the shorter time either.  I actually wanted it to go a bit longer as the discussion of topics is what I prefer.

 

I'm more concerned with what exactly will be in TN2 and what won't be in the next mornings TNT.  If I now have to watch 2 shows to get everything, that actually becomes a hassle for me.

 

I just hope that I don't miss things now because TWIT is trying to get the info to me quicker and I wasn't able to listen to TN2 last night.

 

 

Still good luck to Mike Elgan.  I won't judge the show until they at least get another host and have a few weeks under their belt.  I'm still waiting to see who the person will be that gets a discussion to be more active.