WHY? With flat screen monitors prices coming down why hasn 't someone taken a laptop configura...

[G+_Rud Dog]

WHY?

 

With flat screen monitors prices coming down why hasn't someone taken a laptop configuration and jammed it into the flat screen.

Yes marry the two.

It would not add but 100 to 200 hundred dollars to the flat screen price based on the cost I am seeing in adds for laptops.

This would eliminate the current option of a smart tv with limited capabilities.

Flastscreen + laptop components = ultimate smart tv.

[G+_Golden Retriever]

Ah they do that, they're called all in one it's a whole PC built into the back of a monitor.

 

https://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/en_US/pdp/productID.5074015900?gclid=CjwKEAiAqozEBRDJrPem0fPKtX0SJAD5sAyHQ3wtiVT7fgpfJVMyX2KwYIMDmVgLLlVKFyMfKlD4tRoC_Lfw_wcB&VID=5078871200&s_kwcid=AL!4249!3!157276548451!!!g!266302010833!&WT.mc_id=us_datafeed_pla_google_pointitsem_surface&ef_id=WGBqgwAAAEGLoU6Z:20170121173805:s

 

OR a stick PC.

 

http://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/best-stick-pcs/

 

OR a chrome cast.

 

https://www.google.com/search?q=chromecast+stick&oq=Chromecast&aqs=chrome.2.69i57j35i39j0l2.3436j0j4&client=tablet-android-samsung&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8

 

The chromcast can turn HDMI input into a display for any phone tablet or laptop

[G+_Rud Dog]

Before I follow the links shown would like to mention some of those are very taxed when attempts are made to browse the webs videos and other demanding media. And with 1080p being the lower end soon, those items may not be able to continue to serve the needs of what a lower end PC could accomplish.

Off I go to investigate the links you posted and want to say my response herein is meant with all due respect. Thank you for your input.

[G+_Arcturus Lancaster]

That 200$ laptop would be unable to deal with high end video as well.

[G+_Ben Reese]

The $100-$200 would be difficult to achieve. A decent SSD is $100 by itself. A micro PC mounted to a monitor is probably the best solution.

[G+_Rud Dog]

If the makers of flatscreen TVs purchased in high volume the marriage of the flatscreen and PC would become more affordable. In fact many of the larger companies produce their own PC's providing even more incentive and driving the price of a 600.00 dollar machine down to 200.00 dollars. Guess only time will tell. Thank your input gets me thinking.

 

BTW don't have a low end (200.00) PC but would like to hear from someone that does have one.

[G+_Arcturus Lancaster]

Sales volume would make that an issue. Normal humans can barely operate a computer. They don't want a real computer in a big screen. Geeks for sure. Just not enough to make such a thing viable. Build out a NUC and hide it behind the tv; tho that's not going to happen at the 200 point.

[G+_Rud Dog]

Arcturus Lancaster agreed but you state the exact reason for the PC to be built in to the flat screen the average user can select PC from inputs and be off and running. But time will tell. Maybe we can revisit in 5 years.

[G+_Ben Reese]

To be honest, I prefer the more modular approach. I have a "smart" TV, but never use the apps. Really, the best thing about it is that the CEC actually works! I can control the Fire TV using the TV remote, I can switch on the TV and receiver and switch TO the Fire TV by just waking up the box.

 

There are all-in-one PCs, but they're not usually easy to upgrade. While the concept isn't for me, I'm just one person and maybe there is a huge market for inexpensive all-in-one machines.

[G+_Golden Retriever]

Also you did say monitor not television, if your looking for advanced gaming performance I did not include monitors designed for such due to cost

[G+_Golden Retriever]

The Chromecast Ultra is a little be here than the original Chromecast so I can handle 4K content, also it really doesn't require much of an chip or device as long as you're doing no multitasking whatsoever many people think you need a high-end system because what they've experienced in slowness is due to the process are not being fully available to process the video as long as you're not multitasking it requires a very small processor to handle simple video compression and decompression because most of that task is actually done chips besides the processor

[G+_Rud Dog]

Tod Sage Your right did not mean to include monitors

[G+_Rud Dog]

And yes one or the other not both concurrently.

Sometimes it boils down to the man with a job and family that doesn't have the time to be part of Geekdom County. Thanks all very interesting ideas and thoughts.

[G+_Ben Reese]

Hey! Look at what's on Woot today! http://computers.woot.com/offers/dell-7010-desktop-22-monitor-bundle?utm_source=wootappatlanta&utm_medium=share

 

Is this about what you're thinking of?

[G+_J schrofe]

I was thinking what do you call an all in one PC? It's a whole desktop pc, stuffed into the back of the monitor. I just haven't seen a 55" version yet.

[G+_Golden Retriever]

How about a 70" J schrofe?

http://www.infocus.com/displays/BIGTOUCH-Series/INF7011

[G+_Rud Dog]

Ben Reese So, so, close and will give my wife your google plus name so she can yell at you "Get that ugly thing out of my bedroom" Oh I mean the Dell OptiPlex 7010.

One thing for sure as I was watching the move to thinner screens the addition of internal PC is probably going to be in any design plans for th near future.

[G+_Rud Dog]

Tod Sage Those are awesome. Would have to strip it down removing the touch screen even then it would be a bit pricey. Like the idea of the PC being removable and thus up-gradable.

Don't need the touch screen as it would be hung on the wall and used in places like the living-room. When it is aimed at the mass market I am sure it would sell.

[G+_Ben Reese]

So you're wanting a smarter smart TV? Thing is, everything "affordable" will be antiquated in 5 years but the TV portion will still be very functional. Most people really don't want a web browser on their TV and that's all most people use their computers for now. I'm really fond of the Amazon Fire TV devices in place of TV apps and the only thing it's missing is screen mirroring from computers/tablets/phones.

 

Maybe I'm still misunderstanding what you're proposing though.

[G+_Rud Dog]

Ben Reese yeah I can be a bit clear-as-mud sometimes and I recognize this fact so I try and voice this, mud thing, from time to time when asking for others help.

 

The idea was born from viewing online videos stating stick and small computers like the NUC which travel via the HDMI port, have varying streaming abilities.

There were examples, on some of the lower end items, where the video would stutter step then go on its merry way. This led me to ask what is the lowest end computer you could attach to HDMI port and not encounter this anomaly? Included in the requirements for video would be Netflix, Amazon, Showtime and of course YouTube.

That is when my thoughts switched to what is the lowest spec'd laptop which could be connected to the HDMI port of my flat-screen and avoid the mentioned video problems.

This led to the question or thought why aren't there more Flat-screen TV's with PC internally.

But as the answers came rolling in it became clear flat-screens are headed to paper thin devices.

Now I turn aim towards the HDHomerun DVR software and HDHomeRun prime box. Still searching for the combo tutorial or example showing HDHR Prime and HDHR DVR SW. Which will help understand if all the items can be viewed as listed above.

 

Thank you for continuing to feed me input it is very much appreciated.

[G+_Ben Reese]

Our Fire TV is the only source of TV for us. After about a year of no cable, we finally got an OTA antenna, but very seldom use it. There's no hiccups or buffering and we watch Amazon Video, Netflix, and Plex.

 

I think we're at the point where "minimum computing power" can be found in about any Arm powered device.

[G+_Rud Dog]

Ben Reese Agreed. The power of the PC has now reached a point where video does not cause overload. And as you mentioned an ARM chip can do it as well, hell my cell phone is doing Plex over my wifi network.

Maybe the reference I made to hiccuping has to do with video formatting and will leave it at that cause don't know the mechanics of it.

[G+_Rud Dog]

PS noted the update laptop card from Intel on KnowHow last night now that would be the way to go, place that slot on the back of the Flat-screen and you have your up-gradable PC living in your flat-screen TV.

[G+_Golden Retriever]

If your streaming you far more likely to have problems with bandwidth then processing speed, if you travel your stuck with what ever the hotel has split the bandwidth up to, weekdays when the hotel is less full you probably ok, weekends you could have issues.

If your prerecorded then yes your bottlenecks if any are likely due to your CPU/CODEC decode speeds. How do you intend to do it?

[G+_Rud Dog]

Before I answer you will have to do a bit of homework as it pertains to pulling videos from a NAS or a PC on my home LAN. Not that familiar between processing the video and streaming or if they are the same thing. So some reading is in line. Thank you for your input.