G+_William Deboer Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 Snowden sounds more like a patriot with every passing news report. Originally shared by Breaking News NSA collects millions of e-mail address books globally Washington Post The National Security Agency is harvesting hundreds of millions of contact lists from e-mail and instant messaging accounts around the world, many of them belonging to Americans, according to senior intelligence officials and documents provided by ex-NSA contractor Edward Snowden. The collection program, which has not been disclosed before, intercepts e-mail address books and “buddy lists” from instant messaging services as they move across global data links. Online services often transmit those contacts when a user logs on, composes a message, or synchronizes a computer or mobile device with information stored on remote servers. *Read more: http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/nsa-collects-millions-of-e-mail-address-books-globally/2013/10/14/8e58b5be-34f9-11e3-80c6-7e6dd8d22d8f_story.html* http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/nsa-collects-millions-of-e-mail-address-books-globally/2013/10/14/8e58b5be-34f9-11e3-80c6-7e6dd8d22d8f_story.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Rob Harrison Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 Gee, if I knew what Snowden did I think I'd have had to do the same for freedom of speech and democracy. If we start sacrificing the principles of freedom and live in fear of our own governments then surely the terrorists have won. The scary thing is that when employees see something illegal and wrong happening, there is no way for them to get the word out without fleeing their own government. Sometimes the needs of the many outweigh the inconveniencing of the security services. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_William Deboer Posted October 15, 2013 Author Share Posted October 15, 2013 NSA comes to your neighborhood and goes door to door. They knock and you answer. They inform you that they need to get on all of your internet connected devices and download your call logs, emails, G+ and FB associations and contacts. No warrant, no problem. After all, youre not doing anything wrong what does it hurt right? Thats not right you say? Well what is the difference of them coming in your house or them remotely collecting the data? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_William Deboer Posted October 15, 2013 Author Share Posted October 15, 2013 Sheriff/Police ok too? They look for people doing wrong too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Rob Harrison Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 Can I have your stuff too Lou Gagliardi ? I'm particularly interested in anyone you know and who they know and who they know? Three degrees of separation. British intelligence who information share everything with the NSA like to have something embarrassing on anyone who might speak up against their political policies to smear them in the press. I'm being ironic of course but it has actually happened, in America, to an American citizen. Martin Luther King as a matter of fact. You know NSA workers were rather recently in a spot of bother about having laughs around the office about listening into phone sex calls with US troops in Afghanistan and their families back home. These are the people we're trusting with our entire lives. I was born in 1984 and read the book. What's happening now bears shocking resemblance and it kind of reminds me of inter war Nazi Germany which is a bit scary. It's a power play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Rob Harrison Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 Just surprised a TWiT listener with all the information wouldn't hold a stronger view on the subject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_William Deboer Posted October 15, 2013 Author Share Posted October 15, 2013 dont get me wrong when news first broke NSA contractor leaked info on government program i was thinking he was an idiot too. but with info now about how many programs and how far the government was going i cant hold the same opinion i started with. and for someone to have the thought that its ok for the NSA or any government to come knocking and have a look-see without probable cause, is asking for guilty until proven innocent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Rob Harrison Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 To take that analogy further, this is not like someone knocking on your property once but having a history of everything that happened in that property for the past 10 years or more. Algorithmically searchable on the whim of an analyst. We're in dire trouble but politicians won't get us out if it. Sadly engineers and programmers with open source encryption will have to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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