G+_Rud Dog Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 What ever happened to simply going into bios and setting it to boot from the CDROM? Did a preliminary search and was surprised how many suggestions send people down the wrong path. I say that because I recognize the solutions being offered as remedies for other problems. There was one suggestion to set IDE to legacy to allow the boot from CDROM. That sounded vaguely familiar and looked for that setting in my bios to no avail. I am guessing here but newer computers are running UEFI and still guessing you can set the boot up to legacy IDE and this should allow you to boot from CDROM. Unfortunately, could find no such setting in my UEFI. Oh, how I dream of the days gone past. All I want to do is run spinrite on some Tivo drives! Any simple suggestions are invited and welcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Jared Twomey Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 What brand computer? Most of my computers have a key you can press on boot to enter the Boot Menu where you can select the Boot device. I think mine are all either F2, F10 or F12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Rud Dog Posted August 26, 2017 Author Share Posted August 26, 2017 Jared Twomey indeed they do mine is F12 to select boot menu in which the CDrom is not available or I can press DEL and set the boot priority to CDROM as the first in the list which I do. But this does nothing. I still boot into windows. Acer Predator is my unit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_John Sullivan Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 Look for a setting called "Secure Boot" and disable that. Also, are you sure your disk is bootable? have you booted from it before? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Damien Wessling Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 Rud Dog Windows 10? Notebook or Desktop? Desktops are usually a little more flexible, depending on the vendor. Typically you'd have to disable the Secure Boot mode (essentially turning off UEFI) in order to allow the Legacy option to boot. Again, depending on the vendor, I know I'll never get an ASUS notebook to boot into SPINRITE, it just sits there with the black screen... contemptuously blinking a simple cursor at me... Fffftt! What's your set up Rud? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Akira Yamanita Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 It's possible that the disc isn't actually bootable and the system is moving on. If the boot menu selection isn't working, that's almost certainly the case. Have you tried disc that you know works? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Dan Hockey Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 On my Dells I had to turn off secure boot, now they'll boot from just about anything. My latest computer is an HP prolient, it has a different name for it, but once I turned it off it'll boot from whatever it finds bootable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Black Merc Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 Is it possible to boot spinrite off a usb drive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Rud Dog Posted August 27, 2017 Author Share Posted August 27, 2017 Damien Wessling running an Acer Predator desktop box, WIndows 8.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Rud Dog Posted August 27, 2017 Author Share Posted August 27, 2017 Black Merc That will be my next step if I can't get the CDrom to boot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Rud Dog Posted August 27, 2017 Author Share Posted August 27, 2017 So the game plan is to go back into UEFI section of my boot up process and see if I can find what you are calling out at something like "SecureBoot" and disable it. If memory serves did the failure of the CD-ROM to boot report an error. Either way will confirm the disk in question is bootable. Lastly, when half the hair on my head is gone will switch to attempting to boot from USB. More to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Rud Dog Posted August 27, 2017 Author Share Posted August 27, 2017 Richard Craver looking forward to Steve's updraded version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Dana Theodore Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Oh the dreaded fear of MS. UEFI takes away that option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Rud Dog Posted August 28, 2017 Author Share Posted August 28, 2017 Richard Craver Just got back up and running PC problems but will check out the line you provided. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Rud Dog Posted August 28, 2017 Author Share Posted August 28, 2017 Heart felt sorrow for anyone owning an Acer Predator Desktop computer. The boot process was like many of you were explaining "look for secure boot entry and turn it off". Found it and still could not boot from cdrom. I only wish could have created a video of what was to happen next. Went searching google for something helpful and ran across an odd duck. I was to follow the direction for a fix as if I was having problems booting my computer. Guessing this is to stop folks from booting from a second source and getting around the login protection but will leave that up to the experts. Steps: Go into PCsetttings. Select update and recovery Select recovery In Advanced Options select restart now Then select trouble shoot then select Advanced options and select UEFI. Restart computer and you are dropped into what we all refer to as BIOS but it's the UEFI settings. Once there selected what appeared to be the Secure boot setting disabled and continued with the boot process but no good. Could not boot from cdrom. Went back through the steps above and found a setting which at the time sounded like it would help(sorry don't remember what it was) set it to the opposite continued the boot and SpinRite came up. I don't know if I could have just hit Control-Alt-Delete and completed the steps above but I was happy it was allowing the cdrom boot. Oh and after completing the boot from cdrom I had to do steps from that light blue screen to return to my original settings. Don't know if I had deviated from the steps and if I would have somehow trashed my system but it was my lucky day back up and running. Gonna have to pick a camera for when Camtasia just won't do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Rud Dog Posted August 28, 2017 Author Share Posted August 28, 2017 Richard Craver the Tccmebius you mentioned is something my google search has failed to find. You have located what has been on my wish list for like ever. The ability to insert either type drive and individual card reader slots. Just placed one on order.THANK YOU> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Rud Dog Posted August 28, 2017 Author Share Posted August 28, 2017 BTW SpinRite took about an hour to check level 2 of the 320GB drive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Damien Wessling Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Good to hear you finally had a win Rud, did SPINRITE bring some improvement to your ailing TIVO? Side note, regarding your mention of a camera to capture the events while you're troubleshooting, you could probably achieve the same using your cell phone's video capabilities. You'd need to fabricate a small stand to support the phone however it may save you the expense of purchasing a separate camera. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Rud Dog Posted August 30, 2017 Author Share Posted August 30, 2017 Damien Wessling Only ran spinrite level 2 and it did not find any problems. Replacing the drives completely with exact type, brand and size was a lucky find. Had some thoughts about using my cell phone camera but need a reliable stand with EZ adjustments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Damien Wessling Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Rud Dog Funny thing about Spinrite, you can scan a drive without returning visible faults, yet when you put the drive back in service, performance has been improved. Granted not in every case but certainly more often than not. For the sake of the exercise, drop one back in the TIVO and see how it goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Rud Dog Posted August 30, 2017 Author Share Posted August 30, 2017 Damien Wessling If I go anywhere near the Tivo's my wife has threatened to have my head removed. (She has been watching GOT) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Damien Wessling Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Rud Dog Yep.. Yep I'm hearing you. Even with the added benefits of having a removable head (can see around corners easier, under benches easier) probably best to stick with non removable version... lol. Store them in a drawer and when you get an opportunity, swap them out and see how they go, it's good to follow up. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Rud Dog Posted August 31, 2017 Author Share Posted August 31, 2017 Damien Wessling almost splashed my screen with coffee while reading your replay thanks for the humor and the great suggestion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Damien Wessling Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Rud Dog You're welcome mate! I just did my partner's head in, explaining your issues and how we arrived at this point! Cheers! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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