G+_Ronald Stepp Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 Heard Fr. Robert Ballecer, SJ say he had actually built a dedicated Spinrite machine... I know he is saving the video for "when he is feeling lazy" but would love to know what kind of case he used. I saw a Lian-Li case called the PC-T80, but it's VERY hard to find one in stock anywhere. Any chance someone knows that basic building block he started with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_David Radke Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 A plain old case with hard drive docks (usb or sata). That's all you need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Ronald Stepp Posted October 6, 2016 Author Share Posted October 6, 2016 Any suggestions for swappable hard drive bays? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Randy Beavers Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 He 3d printed one ;+) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Ronald Stepp Posted October 7, 2016 Author Share Posted October 7, 2016 I actually am just happy I finally got spinrite to run again, everything I have is UEFI and even with secure boot disabled I couldn't get it to run. Finally saw a post where someone suggested making a MS-DOS bootable floppy, so after ordering a USB 3.5 inch floppy drive, and some floppies I installed the bootable MS-DOS to it, copied spinrite to it and it ran like a champ on boot up one the same machine. So now I just need to build a small machine with easy accessible hard drive access to the SATA ribbon... that way I don't tie up my main machine... actually thinking now, I could probably hit a few pawn shops and see what they have in the way of computers.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_David Wiggins Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 Ronald Stepp?. I'd look for an older PC like the old media center machines. They often had smaller form factor and lower power draw. Also, if they bridged the era of PATA (IDE) and SATA for drives, so you could run either type. Added bonus is it uses legacy BIOS rather than EFI. I have one set aside for SpinRite, KillDisk, and CloneZilla. I just set it and walk away for however long it takes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Ronald Stepp Posted October 9, 2016 Author Share Posted October 9, 2016 cool.. would also be good for running truecrypt on disks that you are going to trash and want to make sure nobody gets any old data off it.. run truecrypt with a 64-digit random key from grc.com and don't write it down.. once truecrypt gets done whole disk encrypting it with the key you don't know, nobody on the planet will retrieve any of the old data off it... toss or reformat as needed.grc.com - Home of Gibson Research Corporation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Rud Dog Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 Just attempted to run spinrite on a drive connected via USB and the time to run was in the 800 or more hours? Then tried same drive mounted in the bay it was like 300 hours? Drive size it one TB. Must be dong something wrong. Downloaded the pdf of the program but it does not match the current version. Anyone seen a simple "how-to" for usage looked at the video by SG and still didn't seem to shorten the time for running Level 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Ronald Stepp Posted October 9, 2016 Author Share Posted October 9, 2016 Rud Dog it will give big numbers at first since it's just guessing as it goes and refines that number.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Ronald Stepp Posted October 9, 2016 Author Share Posted October 9, 2016 I just discovered that if I boot my Wacom Cintiq2 to my DOS spinrite, it doesn't even SEE the SSD Drive and I have no clue how to open the Cintiq to get at the guts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Ronald Stepp Posted October 10, 2016 Author Share Posted October 10, 2016 Ordered this for $40 bucks from eBay as my Spinrite machine... Dell OptiPlex 745 USFF 80 GB, Intel Core 2 Duo , 1.86GHZ, 2GB RAM w/ PS No Operating system included... darnit. 8 ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Ben Reese Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 Ronald Stepp might re-think that trucrypt idea for scrambling the data. Unless I am misunderstanding how that process works, it could leave un-encrypted data on the drive. There are tools to recover some data from HDDs even after the data has been overwritten. Probably not much, but could be just enough if you're paranoid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Ben Reese Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 Is there anything halfway comparable to Spinrite that will work on 3 TB drives? If I ever get to build my NAS I'd like to use 3 TB drives but I know Spinrite won't run on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Ronald Stepp Posted October 11, 2016 Author Share Posted October 11, 2016 Ben Reese more of a concern with SSDs than HDDs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_David Wiggins Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 Ben Reese?, SpinRite does work in 3 TB drives, it just takes an ungodly long time. That's actually why I originally decided to set up a dedicated box (it's also good to keep track of% complete in case you need to stop/restart) Ronald Stepp?, it will work on SSDs, just only use level 2. It will help trying like botched, unused or incomplete trim. Also, since level two only does reads, it accomplishes two things. First, it doesn't add wear/tear by using up write cycles. Second, if there is a read error, or enough of a slow down, it can trigger the SSD firmware error correction to notice a dying cell, relocate the data, and mark the cell appropriately. It essentially forces what would happen on the next read of that cell normally, but rather than it happening at random during regular use and slowing the system, it gets it done all at once. There's also some other stuff going on, but my brain is to tired to tell me what. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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