G+_George Kozi Posted June 28, 2014 Share Posted June 28, 2014 Mike Elgan Well, it started, and it was to be expected. To me, a non developer civilian, this year's IO keynote was a self absorbed, sleep inducing, developer geek festival. The glaring absence of G+ was bound to fuel not so flattering speculations and give a lot of ammo to those who hate it. As you can see, the shooting has already started. If as it is speculated, G+ will become nothing more than an identity service by the end of the summer, Google has a very big problem. You don't start a Social network, make people give you their identity info, and then change what you started into an identity service. That would imply that the Social part was just a trick to pry the info out of people. I joined a social network that can be used as an identity service, not an identity service that masquerades as a social network. http://www.cio.com/article/754815/Google_Noticeably_Absent_at_Google_I_O Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_George Kozi Posted June 28, 2014 Author Share Posted June 28, 2014 oh, this is merely the first salvo. many more will follow, and that will create an unpleasant atmosphere. Yesterday, a well known journalist put out another buzzword that has stickability, just like the ghost town thing has: "referral graveyard". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Damian Mongru Posted June 28, 2014 Share Posted June 28, 2014 I have no idea whether Google+ is a success or not. As mentioned in previous comments, on a lot of their products Google seem to make changes throughout the year. One result of this is that conferences like IO will not have a large amount of changes to show you. (Again, this is almost the opposite of Apple's way of disclosing information, and updating product lines.) I think you are being a bit unfair on Google+, if their original plan was to create a social network, get users to give you data in unprecedented levels and then turn it into a identity service, then that would be wrong. However, if Google+ has 'failed', and this is a way of salvaging as much of the information as possible, then that is another matter. Google+ itself has an identity problem. What is it used for? For most people who want to post a status, a bit of messaging and post/view friends and family photos they will just use Facebook. It's nice that you can do that on Google+, but why would you? I love the communities here, and the level of discussion. Ironically, the more people who use Google+, the more 'spammy' and intolerable it would get. I find your choice of insults at the start a bit puzzling. 'Self absorbed' - really? It's Google's biggest conference of the year, of course they will talk about their products. 'Sleep inducing': I haven't seen the actual presentation, but I generally distrust overly marketed and in some cases dumb-downed presentations. Finally, at a Google developer conference 'developer' and 'geek' are not derogatory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Leif Posted June 28, 2014 Share Posted June 28, 2014 G+ is a success. Here in Germany it's has surpassed Twitter and many other networks (except Facebook) in just 3 years. All the previous networks grew much slower during their first years. The interesting part is that I see many people from the "older" generations here, especially in the Photo Communities. This is a group that is really hard to get and never got attracted by Twitter and many other networks. It just shows how good and easy to use G+ is for new users and that they feel welcome here. The press just seem to like the attention G+ headlines get, otherwise I can't understand why they write sometimes such a crap. The previous I/Os had a much higher focus on the consumer and not just the developer. Maps was a huge part, YouTube was a huge part, and G+ was a huge part because G+ Sign-In was pretty new and important for developer. This year YouTube and Maps wasn't a part of the IO either - are they gonna die as well? If we misinterpret that like the press does they should be :) This IO was completely different from previous ones and they seem to change their strategy that they do product announcements separately. When the first rumors got spread by a site months ago a Google Member already mentioned that this is crap and those changes are not true, but it looks like the journalists can't (or don't want to) investigate anymore. G+ was the first App that got the new material look - this should show it's priority. Today G+ got 3 years old and does such a statement and post look like it's going to change in a bad way? No, it doesn't. Would the developer team behind G+ grow they would focus on something else and reduce it to an identity service? No it wouldn't. https://plus.google.com/113882113745075873153/posts/inhtjFe2Phe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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