G+_George Kozi Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Originally shared by null This is pretty amazing http://www.sciencealert.com/audi-have-successfully-made-diesel-fuel-from-air-and-water Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Ronald Stepp Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Why the Hell isn't everyone tooling up for this and switching all future car production, say in 10 years, to this fuel? Winchell Chung seen this article? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Jason Muffenbier Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Money. There's very little money to be made in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_John Thomas Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Because after initially promoting diesel heavily as a more energy-intense fuel, when car diesel engines became practical, governments 20 years down the line were told diesel particulate emissions were much worse than those from other sources, and were leading to lung disease and death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Edwin Braun Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 The process as described sounds like a HUGE waste of energy. Splitting the H2O components and then "heat and pressure" that sounds all high energy to me! Looks like to produce an equivalent of one Watt of "Awesome Magic Fuel" needs 1,000 Watts of energy. Just because it is renewable energy does not mean we should waste it on creating fuel in a process that is not efficient. This is unless energy is really free and does not cost a thing. I guess it makes more sense to have good batteries and use the electricity directly. This also has some loss but not that much I see here. Ohhh wait - Audi has no patents on electric car technology and missed that train when they invented TDI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_George Kozi Posted April 27, 2015 Author Share Posted April 27, 2015 "anticipated price range for the new fuel is between 1 and 1.5 euro per liter" they say in the video. So... it can't be that energy inefficient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Tom Wisniewski Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 If they're separating the hydrogen from water why not just use the hydrogen in a fuel cell at that point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Ronald Stepp Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Tom Wisniewski isn't the new fuel already a fuel cell of a kind? Why dilute that by adding extra steps putting it into a fuel cell to take back out when it's already built right into the fuel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_George Kozi Posted April 27, 2015 Author Share Posted April 27, 2015 because for the time being, there is a gigantic fleet of internal combustion vehicles out there. To replace it will take about 3 decades Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Tom Wisniewski Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 George Kozi I'll be honest I mostly skimmed the article. Are you saying this can be used in existing engines? If that's the case then forget I mentioned fuel cells. I just assumed it would once again be a special fuel for a special engine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Tom Wisniewski Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 So... How long until Audi brings this to Lemans? :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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