G+_George Kozi Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 And now it's Apple's turn to go to the FBI and do a "please please please tell us how you did it!" https://www.yahoo.com/tech/nevermind-got-fbi-claims-found-004502326.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Matthew Zier-Vogel Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Well it is the US government. If they could send people to the moon using computers less powerful than the iPhone how hard could it be to decrypt one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Jose C Martinez Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Apple would only asking for the info the FBI wanted to proceed with the court hearings.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Black Merc Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Good? Or Bad? Can we be happy for Apple, because they don't have to break the iPhone? Can we happy the gov. can get to the data they want? Real answer: Apple has a defective device and we have no right to privacy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_George Kozi Posted March 22, 2016 Author Share Posted March 22, 2016 there is A LOT more to this if it pans out. It means that someone, somehow compromised the Crown Jewels... and that reeks of serious embarrassment, if not a bit of a disaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Bjorn Behrendt (EdListe Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 They just finally guessed the right unlock passcode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Ricky Cash Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Keep it moving people, keep it moving. Nothing to see here. Keep it moving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Luis Lopez Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Surely apple helped them but said let's keep it quite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Pierre-André Bergeron Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 A phone build with a closed source os will never be 100% secure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_George Kozi Posted March 22, 2016 Author Share Posted March 22, 2016 it's a dubbelblind. If Apple unlocked that one phone, it would have taken a popularity hit, but they could have said "sorry, there was no other choice". Now that someone broke in (yet to be confirmed) without Apple's help, the product is compromised. And if the FBI finds some outdated actionable info on that phone... oi... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Carlos Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 I know how to unlock it! Throw it at a god damn wall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Black Merc Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Carlos G. No... that is to brick it... :) A least till they take the time to rebuild it. Best encryption in the world: wood chipper + fire! Let's see them decrypt that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Carlos Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Black Merc oh oops, I meant to unlock the insides Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Ronald Stepp Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Uh, No. I seriously doubt the FBI suddenly magically figured it out. Seems like they are just trying to undermine Apple by acting like nobodies phone is secure anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Brian Burwell Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 Black Merc?, it's bad. It means there's a zero day vulnerability, that is actively being exploited. If Apple doesn't fix it, it's much worse off than if it had made an update for a specific device that would remove the wipe command that may or may not have been set up to wipe the device. At least with the latter scenario, Apple retained most of the control of what the FBI did and maybe the FBI would have told Apple about the vulnerability to keep iOS users safe. I know it's unlikely the FBI would actually do that, but if I'm certain the FBI won't tell apple anything if it has to hack the devices itself, and it will take just two words to deny info under a freedom of information request: national security. Apple overplayed its hand, and it's going to be its users who pay the price. As bad as having to comply with a court order might be, this is infinitely worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Black Merc Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 Brian Burwell I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Mr zenecho Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 So in the future I see a situation where the FBI say yes we cracked the phone, but it had no useful data on it? Where do we stand there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Pierre-André Bergeron Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 Brian Burwell? did you really believe in the Apple marketing BS about there phone security? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Gabe Menvielle Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 Ha ha ha. This is precious! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Brian Burwell Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 Pierre-André Bergeron not particularly. I know security is a cat-and-mouse game. One makes end roads, then the other. If there were absolute security, there wouldn't be security patches to exploits. Likewise you wouldn't need to keep improving the "level of security" with each new version of an OS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Paul Chiu Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 I think the FBI always knew how to break this. They chose the case to force Apple to unlock the phone hoping for a precedent to use for future cases. When Apple didn't budge and the case may go to trial with potential FBI personell as witnesses, they realized that they can't proceed without divulging that they could have unlocked it all along and so they pulled this last minute excuse. Essentially, they blinked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Dave Trautman Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 It ain't over - till it's over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Black Merc Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 Dave Trautman it will never be over! Think 'arms race'... The never ending chess game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Dave Trautman Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 Black Merc I was referring to the court case. Love your G+ handle by the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Derek Gourlay Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 The FBI is simply dropping their case because they are afraid of the court setting precedence for when it is legitimate to use the "all writs act". Whether or not they can unlock the phone is irrelevant if they lose one of their handiest tools in their tool belt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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