G+_Ben Yanke Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 Tape backups.... What's a good option? Looking at backup schemes, and wondering if it's worth it. For example, I'm seeing a Sony LTO-6 with 6.25 TB for $30 on amazon. Is that typical? Things I should stay clear from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Pat Hacker Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 O Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Black Merc Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 It was... Back in the 80's and 90's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_James Hughes Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 Tape Backups are slow and sequential. Many better options today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Travis Hershberger Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 Tape backups are no longer slow. A modern LTO drive can write faster than it's possible to feed it data. The only issue with tape is the initial expense. Takes some figuring to find where it makes more sense to just use external hard drives or make the investment in a tape drive and tapes. A new LTO6 drive if expect to sell for around$1500 new, plus that$40 per tape. A 6TB external HDD is going too run around $325 new. So figure out how you want rotations done, how many copies will be kept, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Ben Reese Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 That initial cost though... Sounds like a good deal in the long run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Rud Dog Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 Don't forget the physical storage where these tapes are in a environment allowing them to maintain the data. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Ben Yanke Posted June 10, 2017 Author Share Posted June 10, 2017 Gotcha, so the deal with tapes is: expensive loader, but cheap per/tb cost. I'm probably not quite there yet, but it's good to consider for the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_James Hughes Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 Travis Hershberger my experience is from 20+ years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Ben Yanke Posted June 10, 2017 Author Share Posted June 10, 2017 I'm thinking as well...if google and large businesses are using them, it has to be effective in some situations. I was just curious on what scale it makes sense. Travis answered my question! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_jim hatch Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 where do you get a lto 6 for 1500.00? I have LTO 5 fibre and LTO 4 SAS I'd unload my lto 4 and lto 5. for a 1500.00 LTO 6. Been a magnetic media guy all my life, a friend was designing Bigfoot drives hehe 5" 1gig platter in the '80s. And learned a bit from me about vertical recording. Dunno if Bigfoot came from that. Sure, save to spinning power hungry drives, pay for cloud, cloud disappears, or you bump your hard drive, game over. Linear tape is king for archive. I suffer DAT to this day, audio repurposed to data. Actually need to splice a rare dat audio tape this week. I don't miss DAT, but was great tech at the time. I don't miss my chemical color darkroom either. And you have a physical item. Now where is that vacation you have on a micro SD? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Travis Hershberger Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 Still using DAT? Yuck. It was the thing to use back in the 90s, and yes, I remember those days. You should be able to find LTO 5 drives for around that $1500, I know I've seen LTO6 for $2500. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_jim hatch Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 That's what I asked, someone on this post said or it read like LTO 6 drive for 1500.00 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Ben Reese Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 I have no experience with tapes. Is this it? Quantum LTO Ultrium-6 Tape Drive, Half Height, Internal, Model C, 6Gb/s SAS, 5.25", Black, Bare https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00F0RJ2XY/ Ebay would probably be another place to look. I'm not sure why this one is so cheap when the rest on Amazon are >$2,000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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