G+_Donald Kloss Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 What type of tools will I need to test out my windows 10 laptop, I'm having issues where it would freeze from time to time and notice the hd is constantly being pinged and usage of the hd is 100% I have tried to find out which app is hogging up the drive but can't seem to pinpoint it, I'm assuming it could be the hd possibly going out but haven't purchased a new one yet, I ran the memory test built in to the os and that didn't find any issues ran a chkdsk and it didn't find any issues with the sectors. In safe mode I don't have the issue probably because it's not running all the apps, I also uninstalled my anti virus and am using the bit defender still the same issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Black Merc Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 Uninstall all the preloaded (junk) software that came with the system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Donald Kloss Posted September 3, 2017 Author Share Posted September 3, 2017 Black Merc I don't have junk apps I have deleted those along time ago it was normally a 8.1 laptop but got upgraded to 10 I also re installed windows 10 same thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Giligain I. Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 Shift+Alt+Esc will being up the task manager. If you look at system performance with the graphing...there on bottom right side/corner is hyperlink to more detailed popup screen showing Performace from CPU to HD to network. From there you can see which program is running hard. If you click the box next to description it will highlight all the stuff relating to that program and be in orange color. Google the program name to learn if needed or a way around it or post it here. Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Black Merc Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 Disconnect from net to see if net use is related to the activity. To help narrow down suspects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Damien Wessling Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 Windows 10 will run fine with the built in Windows Defender for your AV solution. If the drive has been in service for some time (upgraded previous version of Windows to 10) it might be worth running SPINRITE over it. You can ID the app/s pulling the most CPU cycles in Task Manager, that might assist in locating the app or service resourcing the drive, coupled with opening Resource Monitor where you can select the drive and sort which app or service is pulling the hardest. Try checking these both with and without your network connection active. So many variable Donald, just need to whittle them down some first. Easiest and simple ones first, SPINRITE the drive. If the drive is labouring and you can't identify any obvious reason for the excess activity, good chance it's degraded and Windows is finding it hard to access. Windows doesn't have the same ability to check the drive at that level so it can't give you the heads up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Chris Eckeard (StMerlin Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 Purchase a copy of SpinRite from SteveGibson? GRCorporation? and run it on the drive. This may resolve your issue, repair a degrading harddrive, and good maintenance to help reduce the chance of failure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Donald Kloss Posted September 3, 2017 Author Share Posted September 3, 2017 If I purchase a copy of spinrite would I be able to run it without windows meaning create a bootable USB thumb drive to run it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Black Merc Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 Donald Kloss all answers :yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Chris Eckeard (StMerlin Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 Donald Kloss? yes without Windows. From USB or CD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Donald Kloss Posted September 3, 2017 Author Share Posted September 3, 2017 Thanks for the replies saw the info on the order page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Damien Wessling Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 Unless you have an ASUS. I'm yet to get SPINRITE to boot on an ASUS notebook, USB or CD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Black Merc Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 Damien Wessling in that case a second machine will be required... Exchange drives and go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Damien Wessling Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 Black Merc Yep, every time. Beats me what ASUS do differently, seems to affect their desktop variants too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Jason Perry Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 If you are worried about your HDD buy a copy of spinrite, it will keep it running until the last bit of life has left its platters. I also only use Microsoft's antivirus software. I find it less bloated and stays in the background. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Donald Kloss Posted September 3, 2017 Author Share Posted September 3, 2017 Jason Perry I'm going to purchase it today I also have another hd I need to look into so it will help me with that also Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Jason Perry Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 What software do you you have installed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Ben Reese Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 To run Spinrite, you'll have to disable UEFI/secure boot. I've only done it it a few times, but to get to UEFI bios, you may have to do it from within Windows. Another option is to check the S.M.A.R.T. status of your drive. CrystalDiskInfo is a handy tool for getting that info from the drive - such as Reallocation Sectors Count. But if you suspect a degradation in drive performance, it may be time to upgrade to an SSD. Even if Spinrite can get the drive working right again, it will continue to degrade until it eventually fails. CrystalDiskInfo is free, so it's worth checking out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Jason Davis Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 These days spinrite has been having issues with GPT partitions as well, it has stopped me from running on most modern Win10 partitions. Unless somebody knows a fix you might hit that wall. But GRC will refund you no questions asked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Damien Wessling Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 I know Steve's working on it, should be resolved in release 6.1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Jason Davis Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 Damien Wessling which is 3+ yrs in the making, I want sqrl but 8 want spinrite more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Black Merc Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 Jason Davis Yes, we need hdd to live longer but, internet security is (I think) a higher priority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Ben Reese Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 Sqrl is only good if it gets adoption. I'm real curious to see if Sqrl is in use in 10 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Ben Reese Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 And lack of GPT support - meaning also no support for 3+TB NTFS drives (not sure about other disk formats) is what holds me back from recommending it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Black Merc Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 My understanding was that SR ignores format type Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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