G+_Peter Hanse Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Make sure to play in the demo interface Synology Demo synology.com - DSM Live Demo - DSM 6.1 Beta | Synology Inc. Qnap Demo https://www.qnap.com/en-us/support/con_show.php?cid=8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Hagos Rush Posted March 10, 2017 Author Share Posted March 10, 2017 Peter Hanse thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Peter Hanse Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Hagos Rush I have a ReadyNas before it was Netgear and it still keeps working today so can not fault them and worth a look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Ben Reese Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Hagos Rush I've been running XPenology (a project built on the open sourced DSM software mentioned) in a VM for testing and am extremely impressed with what Synology has to offer. Tons of apps available immediately, great storage options (including SSD caching and hot spairs), very user friendly UI... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Hagos Rush Posted March 10, 2017 Author Share Posted March 10, 2017 Ben Reese do you need two SSD drives? One for read and write or can one drive do the lifting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Peter Hanse Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 I think it is just one SSD to act as cashing drive of most used files to speed up access. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Hagos Rush Posted March 10, 2017 Author Share Posted March 10, 2017 Peter Hanse okay good. One less thing to purchase Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Ben Reese Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 For the SSD caching? I'd expect one to work fine unless you're going to have tons of simultaneous IO. I'm still playing in virtual space, so haven't tried it under load. The SSD is enough faster than HDD that I would expect a pretty good improvement. Two SSDs would probably be overkill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Peter Hanse Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Hagos Rush Not sure if you nee SSD caching. We don't run on ours but we would need expansion unit to take any advantage of it since we just run a 2 drive unit. How much total storage do you need? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Hagos Rush Posted March 10, 2017 Author Share Posted March 10, 2017 Peter Hanse currently I have 12TB 9TB +1 spare for media, 3 laptops with time machine, Mac Pro and Mac mini. I will also be using for recording of cameras once we move into our house. Currently have about 4TB free. This doesn't include any of my 5 computers currently or the cameras. Redundant backups will also be a must. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Hagos Rush Posted March 10, 2017 Author Share Posted March 10, 2017 I keep reading about Amazon cloud drive and using that as a secondary backup. How does that work with a NAS? Is it an app that you install and it clones your drive to the cloud? My NAS doesn't have any of these fancy options Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Peter Hanse Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Since this is a twit.tv - TWiT | Netcasts you love from people you trust | TWiT.TV topic almost for forget you can also use a good NAS to take place of your google drive, Evernote, photo storage, ect to make your own privet cloud Leo Laporte has talked many times about his own private cloud. We have static IP so accessing off network is easy but Synology does have good system in place for people who do not have static IP called Quick Connect allowing non static IP to get back to it out of their network https://www.synology.com/en-us/knowledgebase/DSM/help/DSM/Tutorial/cloud_set_up_quickconnect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Peter Hanse Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Hagos Rush In Synology for Backup to Amazon I use Hperbackup a Synology App. You can do unlimited storage for $59.99 a year to amazon. Best deal I have found however for home user with such a large data set the upload time may be issue depending on what you have for upload speed. Just checked ours was .9 TB and took multi weeks at 5 Mb/sec upload. However now that it is in place it just is maintaining changes. You can also fully encrypt it with your own keys so Amazon can not read it if they wanted to. You can also use cloud sync from synology to sync select folders with your google drive or other cloud storage for easy access. amazon.com - Welcome to Amazon Drive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Peter Hanse Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Run through this guild at synology to help select unit you would need synology.com - NAS Selector - Support | Synology Inc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Hagos Rush Posted March 10, 2017 Author Share Posted March 10, 2017 Peter Hanse so. Just to confirm. I can backup my ENTIRE NAS drive to Amazon cloud drive using this hyper backup? Because that's sweet as hell My speeds are 150/150 so hopefully it only takes a week or two at most then it's incremental backups from there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Peter Hanse Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Sorry I think that guid is out of date does not show latest models. Such as + models like the DS1515+ or DS716+II Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Hagos Rush Posted March 10, 2017 Author Share Posted March 10, 2017 Peter Hanse It actually showed me the DS1515+ as one of the options I should look at. It all depends on what options you choose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Peter Hanse Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 The DS1515+ is good option. Are you needing to transcode 4K content then you may want to look at unit with hardware transcoding like DS916+, DS716+, DS716+II, DS416play, DS216+, DS216+II Hyperbackup will do all Data you select and applications. You can backup to other Synology local or remote, External USB\ESATA drive, WebDav, S3 Storage, Microsoft Azure, Open Stack, Amazon Drive, Drop Box, Google Drive, HubiC, HiDrive. We backup to external USB and Amazon. Wish I had a 150/150 connection. We are stuck with Charter Business 100/7 so upload takes some time. Had a few failed Amazon backup when I first introduced Hyperbackup but now it has been doing fine. Failure was due to large data over slow speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Peter Hanse Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 I want to add second unit onto our network to do High Availability duplicate. Our network covers 4 buildings So keeping second unit in another location would be our best option for fast recovery. I also looking to change file format to Btrfs modern format. Intrigued by it's versioning and self healing. But to change drive now need to get 2nd unit to swap to to maintain data and system running. synology.com - How Btrfs protects your company's data - DSM 6.1 | Synology Inc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Benjamin Webb Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 Peter Hanse Btrfs does not support raid 5/6 (stably). So pretty much is just raid 1. I used it on a home theater pc I wanted to never die about 3 years ago. In my experience it was slow as well when it came to random writes. ZFS would have been the standard for years if license compatible with linux. Btrfs still has not hit parity for features. Only downside is thing likes to use ram. Even Microsoft's REFS supports raid 5. You cannot boot from it but in my opinion is the most efficient as uses least amount of ram and still fast. Not as many features though. Did 3 M.2 drives on my server in raid 5 for VMs. They will burn up after 600TB written but 6 months in only at 5TB written. These are many experiences at the time and these are of coarse different applications. Was pretty fun building a REFS raid 5 that benched at 1200 MBPS read (It did slow down with the M.2 drives being software raid 5 but still pretty dam fast). I am also aware that they will almost certainly fail as they are consumer drives in a crazy VM application where I needed the speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Peter Hanse Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 Benjamin Webb That is great to know ha don't fully looked at Btrfs and it's limitations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Hagos Rush Posted March 11, 2017 Author Share Posted March 11, 2017 Benjamin Webb that's really good to know. Considering I mainly use raid 5 in my Nas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Benjamin Webb Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 Yeah always trade offs. Even if I was good enough hack ZFS into a Synology there is no ECC ram so not suggested. Guess the choice is best file system vs best third party apps. Be cool to have something similar to a Synology web interface with Ubuntu underneath for ZFS. I could probably make something close but would need community to maintain it beyond basic stuff. Not many people into that kind of stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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