G+_Demian Dellinger Posted January 12, 2014 Author Share Posted January 12, 2014 Greg M I think algorithm problems are what have turned many off to Facebook too. I think Facebook has even a tougher road ahead trying untangle the UI/news feed knot they have weaved together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Brian Barcus Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Demian Dellinger Interesting question. I may try creating a new account just to see what a 'default' stream looks like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Chris J0hnst0n Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Most of my friends and family are on facebook. I keep my media feeds and interests on google+. Just have to remember that quality and popularity in this century have little to nothing in common. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Demian Dellinger Posted January 12, 2014 Author Share Posted January 12, 2014 Brian Barcus I've done this recently and without a gmail contacts for it to scan and guess who you know and may want to interact with or any other social or web surfing cues it's a lot of what's hot and memes and gifs. So it's hard to really know what a person's first experience would be with some actual personal data/context. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Alex Young Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 I feel that in more cases than not, the people who come to G+ as an experiment or just wanting something new, have much less problems than someone with a closed mind (Facebook). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Dave Peters Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Frankly the whole "Anyone can email your gmail from Google plus without knowing your address " thing is not going to help bring more in. People are all about personal privacy in this day and age. the idea that any spammer can now fill your inbox with messages because they found your Google + profile is not going to help get more users to sign up Add in the fact that communities come off as "fanboy" battlegrounds a good portion of the time and Google trying to tie every feature to G+ (see youtube comments) things are not likely to improve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Homer Slated Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Facebook and Google are just as bad as each other. They're both just corporations looking to screw people for money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_christopher murphy Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 LMFAO!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Dave Peters Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 I'm well aware of those settlngs and have already used them, but we are talking the general public, you know the unknowing masses who see mainstream news media report "and in Tech news, Google has just made it so that anyone with a Google plus account can send email without needing your address, story at 11" and go Holy *^#^ , well if I was thinking about signing up, I'm not going to now! leading to just what I said, no growth of new users due to privacy concerns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Brian Barcus Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Homer Slated How about giving one example of either Facebook or Google screwing you or someone you know. Both companies provide advertising supported products just like broadcast television. Does your local ABC affiliate screw you for money? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Steve Faktor Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 The absence of purpose is what hurts Google+ most. LinkedIn is for careers, Facebook for friends and family, Twitter for following celebrities/news. Google+? To fulfill Google's corporate objectives...? A gathering place for Google fans? Very few of the people I know in real life are on here. Most are too busy to care about discovering new people to discuss interests with. Even as far as those interests go, I'd say G+ skews heavily towards Google/Android fandom, tech, and a smattering of politics, photography and warmed-over memes. Plus, it's over 70% male. The exact opposite demographic of Pinterest. Google refuses to embrace the fact that G+ became a a niche network for niche interests. Don't believe those "active" user numbers. Compare the share stats on any article across networks. Point is, unless G+ can answer the "why?" question, most people won't care. Unfortunately, Google's best answer thus far has been, "because you have to". That's like making someone kiss you at gunpoint. There are things they can do, but this is the wrong way to go about a "social" network. PS - Yes, UI/UX complexity is a serious issue, but more people would make the effort if they had a clear reason to bother. PPS - Google+ designers don't even understand their own social nework. See here: https://plus.google.com/+SteveFaktor/posts/bJgAXKV3yqN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Jon Decker Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 I just posted a note on FB about the Gmail settings change and the need to get into G+ for personalized profile URLs. No one touched it, despite my earlier generic family post getting tons of like and comments. I'm pretty sure, at this point kids aren't really using FB except to pacify their parents and other technologically slow humans. I look at the networks as tools and G+ is my photographer networking tool. Facebook is for family and Instagram reposting. G+, FB, Twitter, etc are all bloated and confusing for people like my dad, and he's demographically representative of more than 50% of the USA. Four years from now all these networks will be junked up like myspace. The only reason FB lasted as long as it has was a cool factor from being exclusive, though that has all but vanished now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Homer Slated Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2013/nov/10/teenagers-messenger-apps-facebook-exodus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Jerry Ham Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 I'd prefer to go back to when "nobody was here" (it wasn't true, but there were certainly less of the "MyTwitFace" types) posting things like, How I steal apk from site? or screen shots of an android update. It is now harder to find and engage on interesting posts now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Jon Decker Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 True, Jerry Ham I usually only interact with people after making real life contact first, or by "following" interesting contributors like I would on twitter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Dave J Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 James Heuer I think some of the way early adopters refer to new users of an application have a lot to do with those new users staying away. I have a few friends who abandoned G+ because they don't want to deal with the self appointed technical elite who don't know how to talk without being rude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Homer Slated Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 The main thing I dislike about Google is the herd of arrogant apologists who flock to make excuses for Google every time it does something wrong. It's uncomfortably reminiscent of the heyday of Microsoft shills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_James Heuer Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Dave J Being new has nothing to do with anything I've said in this conversation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_DrSeuss Foley Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 There are other social groups than college students. Working professional and responsible adults need outlets too. Let the students have Facebook, etc....Leave G+ be the outlet for responsible working professional with passions and skills to share. The numbers do not have to be the same.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Dave J Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 James Heuer new users and growing the user base are kind of the point to this conversation. My reply was to the following comment you made. " Not having the "common folk" around is part of why I love Google plus actually. Not that there aren't obnoxious idiots on it too but fewer by far. If anything I think most people who get put off by it just resist change. Moving social networks for most people is a daunting thought. ?" When the "common folk" show up they are going to be the new users. If I am reading what you said incorrectly please explain it to me. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Greg M Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Demian Dellinger well Google's algorithm is what has made me use Google+ less and I am wondering how many other people are missing posts that they would be interested in, simply because Google's algorithm deems these posts insignificant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_DrSeuss Foley Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 I hear what you are saying and I think we are in agreement. I am just concerned about folks worrying about ratings or numbers. They are missing the fact that G+ is a useful forum for mostly adults and professionals who have things to say and discuss. My kids made Facebook and other social medium, cool. I do not want G+ to be anything like those other products. New comers will show up, some will join and others will leave.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_James Heuer Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Dave J Common folk references the general masses that I invariably find obnoxious. More new people on G+ is great. Do not confuse the ignorance of new people which is not in any way what I'm talking about with the idiocy of the people that I'm glad don't yet flood G+. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_DrSeuss Foley Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 We agree.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Demian Dellinger Posted January 12, 2014 Author Share Posted January 12, 2014 Steve Faktor You nailed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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