Seems the UAV registration in its current form is an interim rule

[G+_Larry Havenstein]

Seems the UAV registration in its current form is an interim rule.   The final rule is yet to come.     There will be an open input on the ruling in January.    We all need to give our input then.      I find it poor form they have started registration before the ruling is fully in place.   Maybe that is why it is initially free?

[G+_Eddie Foy]

That's the way knee jerk reactions by legislators and bureaucrats work.

[G+_Dan Hockey]

It's a way to punish us before we do anything wrong. IMO it's the people(and companies that made them) that bought the large ready to fly quads that started this. They had no idea of the physics of flight let alone with whats involved with multi-rotor aircraft. There is no glide ratio and no second chance to correct your mistake.

They also had no knowledge of how GPS works and therefore had no way to setup a GPS based return to home function correctly.

I think a person learns way more about flying by building an aircraft from a kit than an RTF.

But I learned how to fly quads with a little sub $100 store bought toy before I built my 650.

I have learned a lot in the process.

 

[G+_Eddie Foy]

Wayne Hobbins   I agree that the name & address needs to be private.  but after the OPM breach, if its public, that one thing they don't have to secure.

 

I looked at the AMA 990 from 2013 that was posted.  They don't have the cash to launch a big (successful) law suite.  Cash in vs out is near even.

 

Dan Hockey  I've said in the other thread for HAM radio operators, name & address are public, and need licensing (or reg if you like that word better)  But that was so the gov't could round up radio operators during wartime.  Even today's HAM radios are not just a press button and talk. (at least for DX'ing on HF)  This might be the same dealio updated for the new baby-killing march.  (900 bases in 153 countries is worldwide empire.)

 

(ok done ranting.  Merry Christmas all.  Or if that offends you, Merry Cashmas, or pleasant Chriswanzaka  :)  )

[G+_Quadflyingmedic]

Wayne Hobbins are they going to be able to get the number. Only thought it was name and address, or you could search by number to find out who's aircraft you have if there was a crash. I don't worry about someone putting a number on something and crashing it to get you in trouble. That would take a lot of planning to be sure you didn't have an alibi I buy everything online and would show that I didn't buy whatever crashed. I think there is a lot of paranoia out there. They did this so they can say they did something. Probably be like the CB registry and not much will come from it

[G+_Quadflyingmedic]

Wayne Hobbins they come to me and say something crashed without a number and ask if it was me I would tell them I am compliant and ask them to leave my property

 

The personal info they have is the same as what would be in the phone book, and the CC info is put online when things are purchased online

 

If someone is going to get my reg number buy something and learn to fly just to get me in trouble I must have really pissed them off.

 

If you hit someone with your car you know who hit you when you get the report from the pd after the accident happens, wouldn't expect it to be different for this

 

Who knows what will happen with it long term or how it will play out, but its what we have to deal with to fly now

 

Merry christmas ? Wayne

[G+_Larry Havenstein]

Well the video was aimed at AMA members.  But the reality is if the classification of Model Aircraft by the Special Ruling happens you don't have to be an AMA member to take advantage of that.   The Special Rulling didn't specify AMA membership.

[G+_Larry Havenstein]

Merry Christmas.   May you get lots of time to fly!

[G+_Larry Havenstein]

Wayne,  the FAA ruling to register is not the "Special Ruling".  Following is the ruling:

 

SEC. 336. SPECIAL RULE FOR MODEL AIRCRAFT.

(a) In General.--Notwithstanding any other provision of law relating to the incorporation of

unmanned aircraft systems into Federal Aviation Administration plans and policies, including

this subtitle, the Administrator of the Federal Aviation Administration may not promulgate any

rule or regulation regarding a model aircraft, or an aircraft being developed as a model aircraft,

if--

(1) the aircraft is flown strictly for hobby or recreational use;

(2) the aircraft is operated in accordance with a community-based set of safety guidelines and

within the programming of a nationwide community-based organization;

(3) the aircraft is limited to not more than 55 pounds unless otherwise certified through a design,

construction, inspection, flight test, and operational safety program administered by a

community-based organization;

(4) the aircraft is operated in a manner that does not interfere with and gives way to any manned

aircraft; and

(5) when flown within 5 miles of an airport, the operator of the aircraft provides the airport

operator and the airport air traffic control tower (when an air traffic facility is located at the

airport) with prior notice of the operation (model aircraft operators flying from a permanent

location within 5 miles of an airport should establish a mutually-agreed upon operating

procedure with the airport operator and the airport air traffic control tower (when an air traffic

facility is located at the airport)).

(b) Statutory Construction.--Nothing in this section shall be construed to limit the authority of

the Administrator to pursue enforcement action against persons operating model aircraft who

endanger the safety of the national airspace system.

© Model Aircraft Defined.--In this section, the term ``model aircraft'' means an unmanned

aircraft that is--

(1) capable of sustained flight in the atmosphere;

(2) flown within visual line of sight of the person operating the aircraft; and

(3) flown for hobby or recreational purposes.