G+_Raymond Johnson Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 To me, the most interesting part about Jason Howell's Pixel C review (and for that matter, Leo Laporte's review on Before You Buy) is that I can't remember anyone saying anything like: "Google has released an update to its Nexus 9 tablet, this time designed by the Pixel team. It's only $20 more than the Nexus 9 for the 32 GB model, and Google is offering two optional keyboards for those who want more productivity out of their tablet." In other words, I'm surprised how much the Pixel C's keyboard has somehow distracted reviewers from seeing the Pixel C as primarily a high-end Android tablet. Instead, the keyboard changes everyone's expectations and the (obvious?) Nexus 9 comparison is somehow no longer obvious. Really, a simple statement like, "If you're thinking about buying a Nexus 9, spend the extra $20 for a Pixel C" would have made so much sense in these reviews. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Gary Volk Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 I was curious to know how it stands as JUST a tablet as well. Forget the keyboard, if I wanted to buy the best tablet, is this the one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_George Byers Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 The Nexus 9 didn't exactly get rave reviews when it came out either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Raymond Johnson Posted December 20, 2015 Author Share Posted December 20, 2015 George Byers I remember that, and some of the Nexus 9 negatives were related to build quality. I haven't heard similar complaints about the Pixel C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Robert Boschman Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 In defense of the reviewers, by dropping GPS and NFC from the Pixel C Google does signal that they are positioning it more as a laptop replacement device. The Nexus 9 with GPS and LTE seems to cater to a different market I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Richard Cohen Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 Wait, the Pixel C doesn't have GPS or NFC? In nearly-2016? Is that just a "weak signals, metal body" thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Jason Colby Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 Richard Cohen Actually it sounds like evidence for Ron Amadeo? 's "it was never supposed to be an Android device in the first place, but Chrome wasn't ready and so they slapped Android in it and shipped anyway" idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Gary Volk Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 PC mag reviewed this and pretty much say it's bad either as a tablet or a productivity device. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Bret Ancowitz Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 There was a great discussion on reddit about this. I was making your argument, but others (including some who are at or watched the Pixel C launch event) were pointing out that Google's own people were pushing the productivity angle hard. So in a way, it's hard to blame the media 100%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Jason Howell (raygun01) Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 Very good point that the price sits slightly above the Nexus 9. That's a direct comparison that I know at least I failed to point out. But you have to admit that Google itself is positioning this as not really "just a tablet" but a convertible tablet. So I understand reviews focusing on that aspect cause its the thing that really differentiates this from other devices. I do recall saying that my experience with the tablet itself was pretty positive, and that, as a tablet, it's a strong choice with a great design, super snappy performance, all that stuff. But yeah, the conversation will almost always come back to the keyboard integration cause that is what Google intended for this device from day one. Unfortunately, it just isn't as strong in that capacity. My 2 cents anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Raymond Johnson Posted December 20, 2015 Author Share Posted December 20, 2015 Jason Howell Thanks, Jason, and I should have added a sentence or two to my original post about Google's positioning of the Pixel C. As an owner of the original Asus Transformer TF101 tablet/keyboard combo, I've seen how the Android productivity space has always been a bit awkward. It's as if none of us (including Google) quite know what to do or expect from such devices, and why I think there could be an appeal for both Google and reviewers of the Pixel C to make more direct comparisons to other tablets like the Nexus 9. Then again, maybe this is all just a further indication of how the tablet space has gotten tough -- both to sell and to review. Our focus turns to styli/styluses and keyboards because the tablets themselves don't do much for consumers that our phones, a cheap tablet, or an older tablet already does. (Happy 2013 Nexus 7 owner here!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Raymond Johnson Posted December 21, 2015 Author Share Posted December 21, 2015 Just for fun, here's another way to look at this: Pixel C: $500 Pixel C Keyboard: $150 Total: $650 But if you really want to multi-task in Android, and have the option of Chrome OS: 2 Nvidia Shield K-1 tablets: $400 Logitech Multi-Device Bluetooth Keyboard: $30 Pushbullet Pro for universal copy-and-paste: $40 (a year) Lenovo 100s 11.6-inch Chromebook: $166.00 Total: $636 With the money left over you can buy $14 worth of magnets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Bret Ancowitz Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 Raymond Johnson Wow, the Nvidia Shield K1 is only $200... I forgot that. That's a screaming deal for someone looking for a great Android tablet... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Raymond Johnson Posted December 21, 2015 Author Share Posted December 21, 2015 Bret Ancowitz For those of us who might want to replace our Nexus 7s for something with higher performance they do seem like a pretty great choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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