G+_Michael Carleton Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 Get Off Your High Horse: Vertical Video Is Just Fine Think about the hundreds of millions of people watching billions of hours of video on their phones - the same devices used to capture the video. Now think about where you watch video, AAA crew - working in a studio, broadcasting and editing on landscape-oriented monitors. Myriam Joire?, do you only take landscape photos because they're better? Of course not. The way the photo is displayed makes a difference. /rant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Joseph Cappellino Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 Okay, but the problem is the intended media. If I'm on my computer or TV, I can't just rotate the monitor (at least in most cases) or my TV so it looks proper. To make it worse, news outlets that show these videos try to make it better (but to me, it's actually more distracting) by zooming and blurring the video in the background as to fill the entire screen. Also, when you film vertically, it cuts a lot out of the scene. For example, you tend to only get one person, versus everything going on around it. Photos, on the other hand, are rotated properly when viewing on a mobile device, whereas videos are not. Additionally, when printed, the photo can then be placed in a corresponding frame (either portrait or landscape) to get the desired look. Again, the resulting media accounts for this. Finally, only Facebook's video player (at least in the apps I use) allow a vertical video to play on a full screen. YouTube plays all videos landscape and uses the black bars, even when the device is in portrait mode. /opposingrant https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bt9zSfinwFA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Mark Messiha Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 Yeah I'm on that high horse too. Not only does vertical video look bad but it looks like the user doesn't know what they are doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Javier Rodriguez Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 Can 1 of you lend me a hand I need in this horse as well... Vertical video is the worst thing ever. Unless you only share video using Facebook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Paul Werner Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 I'm kinda surprised that nobody shared that funny YouTube video that usually goes around when people start talking about vertical videos. But yeah, vertical video needs to die Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Joseph Cappellino Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 Paul Werner I did. Read my first comment. VVS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Paul Werner Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 Oh oh, totally skipped over it, haha. My fault. By the time I read the whole rant I just didn't even look for a link. I think it was because I was at work. My fault, haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Julian Sammy Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 So to sum up, vertical video is bad because 1. I don't like it. 2. I don't have a player for it / it is letterboxed on the players I have. 3. I don't enjoy bad videography. Ok, then. 1. You are welcome to your opinion. I'm not asking you to like it - just still telling me I should not. 2. I did not know YouTube does letterboxing on mobile. G+ works fine with portrait videos though, as does handing my phone to my mom. I do watch TV on a TV, and tend to find much frustration with letterboxing. I don't get angry when viewing a portrait picture in a slideshow on my TV, though. 3. We agree, whether it is crappy camera work or bad production, bad videography is bad. This is not an argument against portrait video. It is an argument against incompetent videography. That is a scourge! --- Hi, John Montgomery???. Just because people consume a lot of video on their TVs is ridiculous justification. Visual media can have different aspect ratios for different scenarios. On that note... "Are televisions vertical? Screens in movie theaters? Computers? No. There are reasons for that, just a couple of which are it conforms better to the natural scope of vision we have when we view the world with our eyes and it optimizes the field of view." Our field of attention is often horizontal because humans live on the ground, and in wide but not high spaces. not because our field of view is biologically limited on the Y axis (According to Wikipedia we have almost 180° in the x axis and about 135° in the Y axis: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Field_of_view.) Most scenes involving more than one person are best framed in landscape: no question there. But most is not all. Two people in conversation to two cameras is shown as two portraits, for example. As you say, "Seriously, think about it." As for this: "One of the biggest frustrations I have with people who shoot vertical video is all the panning they do to try and get stuff in frame. Makes me as nauseous as riding a roller coaster." Please see #3 above.? _ Edited to correct factual error in field of view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Julian Sammy Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 John Erskine?? by your logic, a person with one eye should only be allowed to view square video. ...seems wrong, somehow. ;) But seriously, our screens don't begin to approach a full field of view today. VR and AR will change this, guess, but right now your video is likely covering only a few degree in either axis, portrait or landscape.? _ Edited typo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Julian Sammy Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 Joseph Cappellino??, cutting out a lot of the scene is called "framing" and it is an important part of good videography and good photography. I'm not saying portrait video is always better than landscape. That would be idiotic. I'm saying it is an option that may be appropriate in some circumstances. For example, if you are actively focusing on the face of a person being interviewed, and nothing else. Nuance, people! Also, fantastic video link. Thanks for sharing. My wife wanted to know what I was laughing about. :)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Julian Sammy Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 John Montgomery, I included that information and changed other discussion based on learning it. I'm not "butthurt" about this: the majority can also be wrong. In this case I think vertical is rarely ok, but there are still times when it is appropriate. Calling people stupid for this? Not so classy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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