G+_George Kozi Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 So... LOL & ROFLMAO ... What is wrong with those people? Originally shared by Brendan “Opie” McMullan These geniuses have access to nukes. 11:57:30 http://usuncut.com/politics/sean-spicer-tweeted-account-passwords/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Michael Shada Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 Reminds me of an old song I heard by King Crimson. And one line of the song is "The fate of all mankind I fear is in the hands of fools." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_George Kozi Posted January 27, 2017 Author Share Posted January 27, 2017 [shudder] Someone should really take their phones away before the butt-tweet us all into a war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_William L. DeRieux IV Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 You know what "Trumps" this ? Trump's official Twitter account: @POTUS used a password associated with a personal Gmail account. IMHO -- It just goes to provide evidence that this is just the tip-of-the-iceberg and that those close to Trump (including himself) -- possibly even his entire administration -- are just a bunch of buffoons wearing clown shoes.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Adrian Greig Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 What a 'maroon'! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Travis Wilkinson Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 While I get it, it's pretty stupid be advised the press secretary does not have access to nukes. Also, you can't tell me nobody has does this in their past. Maybe not twitter but in another form. I've done it in a chat room full of strangers not knowing until after I hit enter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_William L. DeRieux IV Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Travis Wilkinson That article is lamenting over the fact that Trump jumped all over Clinton about her insecure personal email server that stored work emails -- yet Trump couldn't even stop his own people from making similar mistakes. Talk about irony...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Travis Wilkinson Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 William L. DeRieux IV? I get that point, as I said "while I get it...". But there is a stark difference between accidentally tweeting your password to something that, for all we know, is his Facebook account. To, not only, holding classified emails in an unsecured email account but also sending classified emails to other unsecured email accounts. This isn't quite in the same league. I was simply saying ya'll are making a mountain out of a mole hill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_William L. DeRieux IV Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Travis Wilkinson From a security point of view -- there is no difference in tweeting a password versus storing classified emails on insecure servers, because both could be used to undermine the security of a system. Security either protects everything or it does not.... In other words, it would not make any sense to only half-protect a system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Travis Wilkinson Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 William L. DeRieux IV? that's where you're wrong. In this instance the password can be changed before any breach could be made. Also, again, this could be his Facebook account, which would not breach security in any way shape or form. An insecure email server, innately, creates a security breach by having classified emails in it. That's not including the very high probability of it being a risk to national security. As I said, not in the same league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_William L. DeRieux IV Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Travis Wilkinson First, this goes beyond a leaked password -- because it indicates a type of behavior where the press secretary is likely to tweet something they shouldn't. Likewise, just as a password can be changed -- the email server could have been taken off line. The point here is that we do not know what service or system the passwords were/are linked to -- therefore, this type of behavior should not be taking place. If the passwords were linked to a Facebook, Twitter, or other account, that would still be bad because that would allow anyone who accesses that account to spread all kings of mis-information to the general public -- posing as the White House's Press Secretary who is the public face for news from the White House, which will lead down a bad road for the entire country. Hopefully they would put a quick stop to it......but again this sort of thing should not be happening in the first place..... In my opinion, It does not matter how great or insignificant a breach of security is -- it is still a breach -- and it is even worse when it involves the federal government in some form -- as they should know better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Travis Wilkinson Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 I was never disputing that it's not a good look. Only the fact that the article, along with others were making this out as the same height of illegality that the emails were. Quite the contrary. The most that this could/would do is ultimately make a fool out of him. While on the other hand those emails could have put American soldiers/citizens lives at risk. More than they already were at the time. In my opinion it is petty to find something so small, like this, and try to compare it to something "so huge". Something that I'm sure you've done by accident, I've done, and many other people around the world. While the email server COULD have been taken offline, it wasn't. This password, on the other hand, I can guarantee you has been changed. Even if we play devil's advocate and say this password was to something extremely classified. Mind you, again, it's the press secretary we're talking about, who doesn't have that kind of access. The luck you would have to have to not only have access to the database but also the program to run it BEFORE the password is changed would be so high that you would have better chances getting attacked by a shark while also being struck twice by lightning. Also, "they should know better." is a stupid argument. Clinton should have known better than to put her emails on that server. The navy seal that wrote about actual missions and locations, should have known better. Roosevelt should have known better than to create interment camps for the Japanese Americans, EVEN THOUGH he was told how the Japanese got all of their information. In every day life everybody is at fault for something they've done but "should have known better". Whether you work in the federal government or at a factory that makes teddy bears. I agree security is a big deal, but let's agree to make a big deal out of something that has better odds of actually breaching security than this does. My point was, as stated before, ya'll are making a mountain out of a mole hill. Yes, it's a stupid mistake. Though I hardly think it's valid enough to socially lynch the guy over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_William L. DeRieux IV Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Travis Wilkinson It's true people can make mistakes especially when they aren't aware of the consequences or that it may lead to an undesirable outcome -- it isn't until later, through hind sight, that they are told or realize that it was a mistake. However, basic best security practices....such as not giving someone your password, etc, etc -- are well known and not secret at all. In the case of Clinton no one knew about it (other than Clinton and the people that helped her set it up), until the damage had already been done, but in the case of Sean there is enough time for the administration to inform him of the mistake and to properly educate him on the issue. "They should have known better" is still the proper sentiment here -- because there is no excuse in this day and age to not follow those best practices -- of which the #1 is keeping your passwords protected and to use ones that can't be easily guessed or brute forced. In fact anyone that uses a computer or interacts with any kind of network -- should be informed of these best practices -- and again ignorance of these practices are no longer an acceptable excuse when so many people are moving to a digital-life through social media and/or online services or providers. To anyone that wants to know what those basic best practices are can find them here: its.ucsc.edu - "Top 10 List" of Good Computing Practices Also for more in-depth information regarding staying secure can be found here: http://its.ucsc.edu/security/stay-secure.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Dave Kinnear Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Unbelievable. No, wait. I take that back. Totally believable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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