G+_Dean Barnard Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 Do you think that Nilay Patel accused John C Dvorak of being a racist on this past TWiT? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_David Pick Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 I haven't listened to this weeks episode yet. But I will now with this much controversy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Ken Campbell Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 When did TWiT devolve into the Jerry Springer show? This was not the intellectually insightful discussion of tech news that I look forward to every week. Very disappointed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_David Pick Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Okay, at about the 35 minute mark the Beats Audio discussion begins. At about the 39 minute mark John's B.S. O'meter maxes out and he ask Nilay if he thinks he's a racist for not liking big cans. Honestly Nilay made a big deal out of nothing in my opinion. John had a right to confront him about his comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Jonathan Jesse Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 That's about as far as I've gotten so far in the conversation and was turned off from the rest of hte discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Jonathan Jesse Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 This comment from him has completly turned me off from him "Today is the day white men accuse me of being racist. I always knew it would come, but never so soon, and so wonderfully." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Lon Koenig Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 I don't listen to Dvorak episodes. I have no time for that level of troll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_David Pick Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Lon Koenig To each their own. I don't view him as a troll. Just a Cranky Geek, really wish John would bring that show back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Daniel J Brieck Jr Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 For the record was it this episode ? http://twit.tv/show/this-week-in-tech/479 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Randy Strye Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 He did no such thing. He was saying that JCD not liking big headphones was just like anyone else not liking any other kind of fashion (making the point that people only wear them for the fashion, not the function). Maybe using baggy jeans was a bad example but he wasn't accusing anyone of anything. While we're on the subject, can anyone tell me ONE thing that JCD contributed to this episode (or any episode he's on, really)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_David Pick Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Randy Strye John Dvorak has a personality you like, or in your case not like. Friendship is hard to come by for some more then for others. I've understood John has been friends with Leo for over 30 years on and off the job. A friendship that long is hard to give up. I've listened and watched John with the TWIT panel for close to 10 years now. I guess I became acustomed to John's crankiness over the years. I also thought it was funny when he shared on TWIT why he earned a life-time ban from Apple Computers press shows. He wrote a headline article titled "Good Ridence" when Steve Jobs was fired from his own company. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Jerry Ham Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Nilay wasn't exactly accusing John of being racist, but during that whole segment he did say some silly things - for example that What's App will be on top still 30 years from now. Imagine all the people who in around said 2004 said that Blackberry would be on top still in 30 years. It sort of makes you want to write off most of what someone says when they make obviously silly long term statements like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Lon Koenig Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 This very thread sort of supports my position that JCD is a troll, doesn't it, David Pick ? :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Jonathan Jesse Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 So JCD is troll because some people believe a racist accusation was made Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_David Pick Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Lon Koenig I should Google it. But I'm curious what do you consider a troll Lon? Without an answer, the more I think of it with JCD. His career has been about attracting readers with insendury headlines, sometimes just link bait. A troll in my opinion is someone who concentrates on upsetting a group with hateful and hurtful statements and is unapologetic when confronted about it. From experience with JCD when he disagrees with someone or gives a bad review, he does explain his position when asked why he feels that way. I don't agree with John often on his views, but their are times he makes a valid point. A politician he is not, but he has a way to cut through the B.S. some times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Randy Strye Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Lon Koenig David Pick IMO a "troll" can be more broad than that. someone can be trolling by simply stating something they know will cause a ruckus. in that sense, JCD is a troll... furthermore, he only backs himself up with "it's a scam!" EDIT also, i do understand what you mean about friendship. i would probably invite my annoying friend to do things with me regardless of what people think.. but my point still stands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Deboarah Pope Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 When did this air and what podcast was the podcast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Jonathan Jesse Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 This past Sunday and the title is I love baggy pants Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Deboarah Pope Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Jonathan Jesse Thanks I pull it up and listen to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Tyler Winfield Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 JCD is very much a cranky old man at this point in life. I view him much like my own father. WAY past middle-aged and somewhat out of touch without being totally clueless. He often says things that are outrageous and misguided, but so do most old people (ie. Ask an 80+ year old American how they feel about Japanese made stuff. Answer won't be racist but sure won't be a shining review). Sorry John, don't mean to label you as 'old' but it illustrates the point. That said, Nilay Patel did push John's buttons (on purpose from my observations). He is equally as opinionated, just more relevant in terms of current subject matter and discussions. His views on tech and life are significantly more limited that JCD's, by at least a couple decades I would guess. Neither one was 'trolling' per say, just a couple strong opinions from two people with aggressive (or maybe abrasive) personalities.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Jonathan Jesse Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 I finally got to the discussion around what's app or whatever it's called and it was another coffin in Patel's credibility. Seriously a chat service around in 30 years? Didn't we all believe the same about Aim?? Sorry dude that ain't going to be around in 10 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Zulhaimi Abdul Hamid Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 Nilai is an arrogant pr*ck. He thinks the Verge has found the winning formula by not focusing on specs. Just an excuse to go on a love fest with Apple. The Verge's own podcasts were so unbearable to watch with him and the now departed Joshua talking over each other. And yet Leo keep inviting him over to TWIT. Yes and yes. Those can headphones are annoying as hell. Fits for Walkmans and cassette tapes. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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