G+_Mark Swaim Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 Check out @leolaporte's Tweet: https://twitter.com/leolaporte/status/648513185922678784?s=09 https://twitter.com/leolaporte/status/648513185922678784?s=09 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Mech1164 Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 Well the first part will happen the other never will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_David Pick Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 Robert Wilke will see. Just glad they made peace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Tim Allen Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 I'm not sure how I'd take "I surrender" from a friend. Hopefully they will talk on phone or in person and work it out. I still don't expect him to come back though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Sandy Jones Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 What did I miss? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_David Pick Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 Sandy Jones Assuming you were unaware, Leo had banned John C. Dvorak? from TWIT this last Saturday. Apparently 8 hours ago,Leo relented and did so with a joke that has fallen flat with some here. If your unaware of why Leo banned John, review earlier post in this community. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Sandy Jones Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 Thx for the info I had no idea gotta read up on that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Joe Morrison Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 It's a lose lose situation. On the other hand I stopped listening to TWiT quite a while ago due to too much Dvorak and rehashing of news that had been covered better during the week. TWiT as a network is still pretty good, TWiT as a show lost me a while ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_David Pick Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 Joe Morrison Understandable. I'll still listen to live TWIT on Sunday evenings. But I've given up participating with the live chat room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Luis E. Rodriguez Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 In other news...water on Mars. So yeah, not important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_David Pick Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 https://twitter.com/THErealDVORAK/status/648564348533743620 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_David Pick Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 Previous link should show more of the public conversation. And how fans(producers) of No Agenda will never allow a civil conversation between John and Leo on Twitter. I'd really encourage Leo to have a long conversation far away from Twitter with John after this recent turn of events.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Peter Phillips Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 I don't think that Leo expected this huge backlash against TWiT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Rock Westfahl Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 C'mon. These guys are doing show biz. Have a fight, patch it up and move on. It builds ratings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_David Pick Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 Peter Phillips? I think he did. As Fr. Robert Ballecer, SJ?? has tried to point out. It hasn't just been Leo, but everybody involved with TWIT that has had to deal with horrendous trolls who are producers(fans) of No Agenda for over 2 years now. I believe that constant conflict Leo has dealt with came to an agrevated plateau this last Saturday. Leo could have done what he did with more calm offline. But he maybe without thinking it through, decided to see who gave a damn if John is no longer involved with TWIT. Maybe it was enlightening to see not just trolls upset by Leo's decision. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Peter Phillips Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 David Pick Interesting perspective and trolling is never okay. I'm not a huge fan of NA but enjoy listening occasionally. To be fair, Leo has been publicly dismissive (albeit passive-aggressive) with NA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_John Scott Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 This all seems a bit silly. Leo does know that this is the same Dvorak who had a show called "Cranky Geeks," right? And Dvorak was called the "head crank" on the show because that's his shtick. For anyone to kick a head crank off of anything for being cranky is silly unless they've lived in an isolated box the last 30 years. Besides, he has great barbecuing tips about matching food to types of wood chips so leave him alone. So let's review. Arrington, Calacanis, Merrit, and now Dvorak? Methinks a pattern doth emerge. You could imagine these names as a presorted, sliding scale of irritativeness, culminating in a long-time friend. Is Leo becoming that corporate guy he has always despised? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_cody climer Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 All this drama is turning me off TWiT... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_David Pick Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 John Scott The fans of both networks have made a big deal out of this. Leo's reaction wasn't over what John said or did. It was fans being trolls and Leo hitting his limit. You can only be on the defensive for so long before viewing everybody as a threat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_David Pick Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 cody climer I'm possibly to blame for bringing the drama from Twitter to Google+. But I respect not everybody participates with Twitter and thought others would want to know what's going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Fr. Robert Ballecer, SJ Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 At the risk of jumping into something and making it worse... This isn't a TV drama. This isn't a cause. It's not a philosophical stand or a victory for one side or another. -- This is two men who have been friends for more than three decades, who feel hurt. -- I know many folks won't listen, but I'd really love for everybody to take a deep breath, step back, and let these two work it out without us pouring more fuel on the fire. Please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_David Pick Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 Fr. Robert Ballecer, SJ No objections from I. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_John Scott Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 David Pick Okay that makes sense from one angle but on the other hand, everyone on TWiT for the most part used to interact with early adopting fans like ordinary users in the early days of Twitter and Google Buzz and that continued into Google+. Then a few years ago, they all took a step back more or less in unison (by agreement obviously) and became more like typical, out-of-touch celebrities, most of whom never respond to anything ever. Rumors abounded during the time that they stuck their heads in the sand, that the trolling had reached a level where they simply had no choice--especially for the females, who always get the worst of it. That being said, it's part of the landscape of this business unfortunately. Make no mistakes, Dvorak has dealt with more than his share of trolls since the early PC Mag days and Leo knows that. If anything, it should make him more sympathetic to what John goes through rather than to direct his frustration at John instead of the trolls. I'm sure they worked it out eventually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Jeff Hubert Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 Is this real? I hope it's true. Those guys are great together. ????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Sandy Jones Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 I'm sorry but John C hasn't been relevant in the tech community since he started doing NA. Everything is a conspiracy theory with him and from catching up on this story I'm not sorry to see him go from TWIT cause his opinions arent his own. He used to give insightful feedback now its just idiotic nonsense which leaves me sometimes wondering about why hes on the show where as most times if hes on ill just skip that episode Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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