G+_Charles Griffin Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 We know Leo hates Twitter, but I was surprised how easy it is to be blocked by him there, which is lame considering how long I have been a fan. Sometimes you are wrong and you will stay that way until you can accept the bad with the good and face up to some criticism. There is way too much truth coursing across the Internet to expect it all to be sugar and spice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Phillip Stewart Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Heh. Shared with us what caused him to block you and we will be the judge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Fr. Robert Ballecer, SJ Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 We don't expect sugar and spice, but the TWiT crew has been getting some absolutely horrid tweet attacks for the past 2 years... mostly from "producers" of another show. (Not MY classification... it's what they put on their Twitter descriptions) As a result, what COULD have been a fantastic platform for discourse has become an platform for instabanning. -- In fact, my account AUTOMATICALLY does it, and as a result, some innocents have been blocked who shouldn't have been. -- It's just the sad reality of dealing with folks who take it as their mission to destroy what you're trying to build. It only takes a few to spoil it for everybody else. :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_John Mink Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 I didn't even realize autobanning is a thing on twitter...though it makes sense. How does it work? Keywords in posts? Name/title in a profile? Too many/too long PMs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Fr. Robert Ballecer, SJ Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 John Mink It's a combination of things... I don't want to say precisely how it works because some folk have been trying to figure it out for a long time now and I'd rather not give them a blueprint for defeating the filter. (I even randomized it so it switches back and forth between "block" and "mute" so that they don't know EXACTLY what triggers it.) But this is a good exercise in logic development. -- Take a look at some of our stalkers and see if you can see the patterns. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_John Mink Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 I was trying to be vague because I'm genuinely curious about the tech. Guess I wasn't general enough :p But I can guess a few things I'd block were I dealing with some of the trolling you all get >_< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Rob Leonard Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 mankind creates Internet to communicate with people all over the world mankind invents way to instantly block anyone trying to communicate with him from all over the world Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Fr. Robert Ballecer, SJ Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Rob Leonard "mankind creates Internet to communicate with people all over the world Some people prove that they don't have the maturity to communicate with people all over the world mankind invents way to instantly block said people from communicating with people all over the world" There... I fixed it for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Tim Allen Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 I thought TWiT was being hit by people from that one website... Now it's been No Agenda? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Fr. Robert Ballecer, SJ Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Tim Allen I never said No Agenda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Tim Allen Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 "mostly from "producers" of another show. " Seriously, Father Robert? Kind of a childish response, if you ask me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Fr. Robert Ballecer, SJ Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Tim Allen You wrote "it's been No Agenda" -- I would never suggest that the principles behind that show are attacking TWiT. What I DID write is that there is a group of people who enjoy stalking TWiT personnel, and they have self-identified themselves as "producers". That's a very important distinction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Tim Allen Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 "I would never suggest that the principles behind that show are attacking TWiT." By principles, I assume you mean Adam Curry and John Dvorak. If so, I never suggested you did and you know that. Misdirection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Charles Griffin Posted September 27, 2015 Author Share Posted September 27, 2015 I think too many sources agree with Dvorak's assessment of "clock boy" to discount it. I was listening to TWIG when they reacted to it and I was sort of surprised at the vehemence they had for the people in Texas over an issue that to me clearly was sketchy. My only crime was pointing out that Dvorak was likely on the right track. To go after those people without the full story seemed wrong to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Fr. Robert Ballecer, SJ Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Tim Allen And I never suggested it was No Agenda... and you know that. Misdirection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Tim Allen Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Okay, Father, who were you talking about? Producers of what show? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Rob Chanock Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 TWIT has enough to deal with without having to cope with trolls who somehow think that they can gain notoriety /relevance by attacking TWIT personnel via chat/Internet. It's unacceptable that TWIT has to deal with anonymous stalkers or anyone else that tries to derail what they are trying to accomplish. I've been a listener since the beginning and find their content valuable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Douglas Jenkins Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Tim Allen If I understand the concept of NA, if you send in enough money for a certain show or segment of a show, you get the label "producer," for that particular show/segment. Other than producing an economic function it seems a stretch to call such a person a producer, such is the claim of Ahmed-deniers that the clock is anything more than a "repositioning" rather than a creation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Fr. Robert Ballecer, SJ Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Douglas Jenkins Exactly... YOU understand the distinction. -- That's why I put "producers" in quotes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Tim Allen Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Douglas Jenkins Yes, you are correct, the No Agenda show does call people who donate producers. I would imagine most who've seen John on TWiT have probably heard that term. From the beginning of my conversation with Father Robert we've both been talking about those people—he has just been playing word games with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Fr. Robert Ballecer, SJ Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Tim Allen What you call "Word Games", the rest of us call, "not slandering". Have a nice day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_David Pick Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Excuse my long post. I thought I would address what Charles Griffin? started this thread on. His shock how easily it is to be blocked on Twitter. I learned around July that Sarah Lane? blocked me on Twitter. I discovered this when I tried to tweet her and acknowledge her great interview on iyaz akhtar? 's podcast "Quest for Peace". I was initially shocked and didn't understand the significance of myself being blocked. When your blocked, you can't message or see any tweets they send out and that block is permanent until they would remove it. Usually 99% of the time that never happens and I wouldn't count on her ever making the effort to change her mind about it. Twitter made blocking someone easy as the person being blocked receives no notification they have been blocked. You only discover your blocked when you try to directly tweet them.It's painless on their part to initiate the block and far less frustrating and painful to figure out if someone is being a troll or just being rude. Even William Shatner? recently tweeted he'll block someone without hesitation if he views their tweets to him as rude. When I discovered I was blocked, I figured she must have done so over a month ago after I made a bad joke to her when she was live tweeting LeBron James accidentally exposing himself on a June 12 game. I made my peace almost immediately when I learned I was blocked by Sarah as I viewed it wasn't personal. I learned a follower is not a friend and I unknowingly made her Twitter experience worse with my bad joke. Three years on Twitter, I somehow stumbled into troll territory with her. I looked at the whole ordeal as a self warning to be careful what I say and interact on Twitter. More then likely, I would block her if she for some reason unblocked me to simply avoid temptation of commenting on something she said and possibly offending her again. I also have no idea what it's like to interact with 80000 followers and no idea what kind of bad people she's dealt with in the past. When Leo Laporte? was a recent guest on Nerdist Podcast with Chris Hardwick?, I learned to respect Sarah is not a comedian. Meaning,comedians will fight back when someone is heckling them. Sarah like many will just use the block feature as it is non confrontational and probably a reason she still uses Twitter as it really cut down on troll behavior. Whatever views somebody has about being blocked.Realize that feature was added to address the troll behavior that Mike Elgan? and many at TWIT.tv have complained about for years now. You end up loudly answering the question if your a troll if you aggressively fight being blocked by somebody. Meaning create alternate accounts or negatively meassage them on other social networks.I am not and I feel you Charles Griffin? are not a troll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Charles Griffin Posted September 27, 2015 Author Share Posted September 27, 2015 David Pick Interesting comment about blocking Sarah to avoid offending, because it had occurred to me that now that I'm blocked I don't have to worry about being tempted to Tweet to Leo and offending him. That bridge is closed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Kyle Veatch Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 Why does anyone care if someone else blocks you? It's their feed, they can do whatever they want with it. Don't like it, too bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_joe kruger Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 because leo is a douchebag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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