G+_Marlon Thompson Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 Jason Howell? the animaniacs video featured in the dispute over the you tube kids app is fan created and dubbed over with a song from family guy.and as such it understandably vulgar. Animaniacs itself was awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Mark Stronge Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 All the content on YouTube is basically self-moderated, as far as age rating goes, no system will be perfect or it would stifle innovation and be too costly to run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Jason Howell (raygun01) Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 I was gonna say wow! I never really watched it when I was younger but I know it was a big deal, so if THIS was from the show, I was kind of blown away! So then, that kind of proves my point further. How did a fan dub of animaniacs make it through without some sort of check in place? If it was "Oh its an Animaniacs episode, so it's ok" then Google doesn't even understand its own product very well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Mark Stronge Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 Jason Howell do you really think they are going to vet each and every video that goes up? Out of the millions of minutes of content that gets posted every day? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Marlon Thompson Posted May 20, 2015 Author Share Posted May 20, 2015 Jason Howell given that the videos shown had to be actively searched for in the app, do you feel more at ease giving your daughter the YouTube app ( that you said she prefers) or the YouTube Kids app? Any other parents of young children feel free to chime in as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Jason Howell (raygun01) Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 Mark Stronge Look, I'm not saying I know what they should do. All I know is they are promising something that they can't deliver on. They are in a bad position with the app and I don't think that changes unless they do in fact vet every video that appears there. Not to mention, they never said "this app will show every piece of YouTube content ever created that is kid friendly." They said that it would be a selection of kid friendly content. So, I dunno, they go with content creators that they know without a doubt are publishing kid friendly content (PBS as just one example), first and foremost. If a fan dub of Animaniacs appeared there, then they aren't doing this. The algorythmic approach doesn't work for something like this cause video leaves too many opportunities for stuff to get through that they didn't intend for. If they are promising a sandbox of content that's safe for kids, then yes, they need to vet every video that THEY CHOOSE to be represented there. That doesn't mean watching millions of hours of content per day, which is too much to ask for sure. That just means that they should be smart as to which content they green light, and then be choosy from there with new content creators. And THAT is why I say that this might not have been a great thing for them to get into. Because yes, that is a lot to ask. But if they want to deliver on their promise with the app, that's what they'll ultimately need to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Jason Howell (raygun01) Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 Marlon Thompson You know, funny enough, YouTube is doing a great job offering appropriate content to my daughter based solely on her previous viewing history. I check it ALL THE TIME to make sure things are looking ok, but YouTube's algorithms have determined the videos my daughter likes and I have yet to discover her watching something that I don't care for. So somethings working THERE. That's what boggles my mind. If the YouTube app can do a good job at curating a safe playlist for my daughter based on HER viewing history, then the YouTube Kids app should be doing an even better job at it cause its curated. But apparently it isn't. That's a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Mark Stronge Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 How is it not curating the videos based on past plays? I would think that is a given Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_L I Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 I was wondering about that when I heard the pod. When I was younger I remember Animaniacs used to be on TV in the afternoon during the after-school cartoon block - back when that sort of thing existed. Google really shouldn't offer anything termed as kid-friendly unless it's vetted by a human. There are several well known cartoon videos out there with very hilarious (to me) NSFW audio tracks overdubbed. Come on, Google.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Mark Stronge Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 It's up to the content producers to classify their content. You can't possibly watch every single minute of video that is posted to YouTube, it would take 1000 years, or something like that, apparently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_L I Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 Mark Stronge then they shouldn't offer a Kids YouTube. Advertising something as kid friendly then blaming the uploaders when inappropriate videos slip through is a bit weak especially from a big company like Google. People have certain expectations when something is advertised as kid-friendly. and even if they have to limit selection to ensure no slip ups that's what they should do and video producers who aren't known entities/partners should realize that an approval delay is expected for special placement in YouTube Kids. That said, I don't know what the actual percentage of slip ups is and of these complainers are only cherry picking 5 videos out of a million. It's very possible they could be on the Facebook payroll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G+_Mark Stronge Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 It probably is that sort of percentage... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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